Why are there so many unemployed Doctors?
Why are there so many unemployed Doctors?
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Acorn1

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2,911 posts

43 months

Sunday 15th February
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We keep being told the NHS would collapse without immigration, yet over half of UK trained doctors can’t get a job.

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/pulse-careers/ha...

Collectingbrass

2,692 posts

218 months

Sunday 15th February
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Acorn1 said:
We keep being told the NHS would collapse without immigration, yet over half of UK trained doctors can t get a job.

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/pulse-careers/ha...
1. Because it takes so long to train a doctor, 4 - 6 years for the medical degree & 2 years of foundation training to get to the point of the article. And given most med schools want quite a bit at entry, not just A* a levels, you really need to add another 2 - 3 years to that. 10 years is a LONG time in the life of a parliament Whitehall planning cycles.

2. Immigration =/= demand for doctors. This is more about the other end of the pay scale.

DeadShed

8,916 posts

162 months

Sunday 15th February
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It’s a very specific type of job at a very specific phase of a doctors training. It has no relevance to the wider picture of staff shortages across the NHS.

Eric Mc

124,768 posts

288 months

Sunday 15th February
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The thread title is a little silly.

Acorn1

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43 months

Monday 16th February
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Eric Mc said:
The thread title is a little silly.
Why?

It’s a genuine question.

911Spanker

3,013 posts

39 months

Monday 16th February
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Acorn1 said:
Eric Mc said:
The thread title is a little silly.
Why?

It s a genuine question.
The title is incorrect: "What are there so many unemployed Doctors".

Acorn1

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2,911 posts

43 months

Monday 16th February
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Ah yes, my bad.

So we train all these doctors at great expense and there’s no vacancies.

No wonder Australia is hoovering them up.

Drumroll

4,361 posts

143 months

Monday 16th February
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Acorn1 said:
Why?

It s a genuine question.
Why start a thread from an article that is 6 months old?

911Spanker

3,013 posts

39 months

Monday 16th February
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Acorn1 said:
Ah yes, my bad.

So we train all these doctors at great expense and there s no vacancies.

No wonder Australia is hoovering them up.
Any reason for the capital "D" in "Doctors"?

s1962a

7,370 posts

185 months

Monday 16th February
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Acorn1 said:
Ah yes, my bad.

So we train all these doctors at great expense and there s no vacancies.

No wonder Australia is hoovering them up.
Once we move to an insurance based NHS system (i.e. private), we'll have to put in some safeguards to make sure the private companies hire and train our homegrown doctors rather than going for the cheapest option.

p1doc

3,609 posts

207 months

Monday 16th February
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in GP land it is because private employers can employ a whole variety of doctor alternatives like physio/ot/ANP etc and get paid by the government for employing them or employ a GP and get no money from government, as private company=profit first guess what they choose