How much does depreciation sway your buying choices?
How much does depreciation sway your buying choices?
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funky_turtle14

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Hi PH community,

I’m in my 20s and looking at buying my first sports car in the £10–15k range. It’ll be a daily, probably 12–15k miles a year, and I’d expect to keep it around 5 years.

How much do you usually factor depreciation into the decision when comparing cars like this? Do you properly try to estimate it up front, or is it more of a “rough feel” thing?

At the moment I’m leaning towards something like a Mazda MX-5 RF or a GT86, but struggling to tell how much the long-term cost difference actually matters.

Interested to hear how others approach it.

Cheers

LuS1fer

43,156 posts

267 months

I generally don't because I buy at a point where I think the main depreciation is done.

I bought a 2019 MX5 RF and managed to get the price down to where I thought it was cheap enough. It meant more miles on the clock and not a garage queen low miler but I do low miles anyway so it averages out.

You can get an early MX5 ND for well under 10k these days and when you come to sell, a 2 seater sports car with negligible storage space is going to be harder to shift so it's not just a question of depreciation, it's a question of volume of potential buyers, in a few years.

FA57REN

1,244 posts

77 months

Buy it, enjoy it, consider the cost sunk. If you get something for it at the end it's a bonus.

Worrying about depreciation will suck the joy out of it and every mile will feel guilty.

TVRBRZ

572 posts

111 months

It was a minor factor for me when deciding between a Jag F-Type and an Evora. F-Type values had been dropping a few years ago, so my man maths was thinking that a £25k F-Type would be cheaper to buy but would depreciate £5k over a few years. So I spent £5k more to get the Evora which I predicted would not depreciate.

Both actually seem to have kept their value.

Ultimately I chose on dynamics.

Forget using depreciation as a metric for a heart vs head sports car choice. Go with what you gel with and what gets the pulse going (and GT86/BRZs are flawed but fab).

kambites

70,502 posts

243 months

I tend to buy cars to keep for a long time, so I generally just assume 100% depreciation and am happy if that turns out not to be the case.

A.J.M

8,304 posts

208 months

Deprecation has never been a factor in a car purchase.

You can’t predict how the market will go in 5 years time.

Buy the car you want and enjoy it.
It won’t be worthless after 5 years so you’ll get something back, but you’ll also have 5 years of enjoyment, possibly some good road trips etc.

georgeyboy12345

4,180 posts

57 months

The only way it affects what I’ll buy is that the depreciation has worked it’s magic to bring it to a price point that I can afford.

jules_s

4,975 posts

255 months

I've never considered it tbh

It's only (to me) if you buy new -buy something circa 12 months old and let somebody else take the 'hit' is my MO

Roger Irrelevant

3,305 posts

135 months

Not in the slightest. I assume that once I've bought it the money's gone, and anyway trying to predict depreciation over five years is a mug's game. Just get what you want.

Terminator X

19,369 posts

226 months

It's never bothered me. Perhaps why it feels like I never have any money though bandit

TX.

nickfrog

24,087 posts

239 months

It's always been really important in my choices. It's quite irrational as I can't really do anything about it apart from trying to buy well but the lower the depreciation, the more I enjoy the car, even though it's only crystallised when I sell.
I think I have done really well over the years, through a combination of luck, a bit of research and perhaps good marketing when I sell privately. It's become a sort of sideline of its own really.

Mr Tidy

29,105 posts

149 months

It never entered my mind when I was in my 20s, I just wanted to keep moving onto the next newer and better car!

40 or so years later I still just buy what I want and if it doesn't depreciate that's just a bonus. Life's too short to worry about depreciation.

Although GT86 prices do seem to be holding up pretty well.

Pica-Pica

15,911 posts

106 months

kambites said:
I tend to buy cars to keep for a long time, so I generally just assume 100% depreciation and am happy if that turns out not to be the case.
Similar. Last three cars I kept for: 10 years, 19 years, and now 9 years so far.

5lab

1,806 posts

218 months

I also consider a cars price written off when I drove it away. That said sports cars keep their value really well - a nice condition 14 year old gt86 still retains half it's value - the equivalent age focus would be worth pennies

Jamescrs

5,809 posts

87 months

Tuesday
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I never consider the future depreciation when choosing what car to buy, if I can afford it and i'm going to enjoy it I buy it, it's that simple really.

Alex Z

1,954 posts

98 months

Tuesday
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I really noticed it on my last new Octavia. It was a very good car for that type, but the depreciation meant it cost much more to run over 4 years than the Mini that replaced it did over 8.

AlfaManc

267 posts

193 months

Tuesday
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I always buy at around five or more years old, keep for 3-5 years, and do the same again. Gets me something nicer than if I was buying new. The wife gets newer cars but hangs onto them for 5 or so years so depreciation is really quite low. We both do low mileage so prefer to avoid the depreciation on a brand new car.

brillomaster

1,667 posts

192 months

Tuesday
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A little.

I'm unlikely to buy a car i know has a lot of depreciation still to come. Therefore its unlikely ill own any car newer than 10 years old... about 12 years old seems to be my sweetspot for buying.

Then once ive got it, try and hold on to it until average depreciation is £500 a year.

Bought a BMW 330d for £5k 5 years ago... that's probably depreciating £500 a year, same as my boxster.

There are a few cars if bought sensibly won't depreciated at all... early boxsters have stabilised and are now sold on condition, not age.

Deep Thought

38,573 posts

219 months

Tuesday
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funky_turtle14 said:
Hi PH community,

I m in my 20s and looking at buying my first sports car in the £10 15k range. It ll be a daily, probably 12 15k miles a year, and I d expect to keep it around 5 years.

How much do you usually factor depreciation into the decision when comparing cars like this? Do you properly try to estimate it up front, or is it more of a rough feel thing?

At the moment I m leaning towards something like a Mazda MX-5 RF or a GT86, but struggling to tell how much the long-term cost difference actually matters.

Interested to hear how others approach it.

Cheers
I apply the 50% every three years rule of thumb - certainly for anything someone would run as a daily driver and do those sort of miles in anyway.

I used to be in the motor trade so i try to buy the right car at the right price, with the above in mind.

I tend not to go much above £30K and keep a car 2-3 years, so looking to return £15K after 3 years. If i do better than that its a bonus.

£5K pa depreciation feels tolerable.

That said, if you bought an MX5 or a GT86 then i think you'd easily beat that. I'd try to root out a low miles example given you do a bit above average. Come resale time too high a miles can be off putting to many.

Edited by Deep Thought on Tuesday 10th February 20:06

OutInTheShed

12,861 posts

48 months

Tuesday
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I buy cars I fancy, thinking I will roughly budget £2k a year for repairs, servicing and depreciation.
So if it's £6k and doesn't need mending, I'm happy to get 3 years out of it and any longer life or residual value is a bonus.

I work on 10 or 12 k miles a year, so I look at cars and think about how tired they will be after another 40,000 miles.
A car with 150k miles on it is going to depreciate a lot by 180k.

I'm seeing a lot of 130k mile cars looking like worse value than some 80k mile cars, when you look at dividing the price by the remaining life.

I tend to keep cars until they are worth 3 figures, and bike until they are either worth more as parts or worth more than I paid for them.

I think with EVs and all that, the world is changing so predicting value in 3 years time or whatever is bullst.
Also at my end of the market, a car that's £5k to buy is £2k WBAC sale value, so depreciation is not linear.

I enjoy my cars more when I've mentally got to the point of 'it doesn't owe me anything'.