Neighbour deliberately destroying verge
Discussion
Bought a house in an estate about 7 years ago.
About 50/50 council built vs private. Ours is ex council.
Our driveway ends on a pavement, then about 15ft further to the dropped kerb is tarmac with a grassed area either side- with yet another path the other side. Whole street is largely the same. Everything past our drive is council owned.
A neighbor across the road has taken to parking immediately outside our house on this peice of grass. The area now resembles The Somme with deep rutted tracks and mud absolutely everywhere. Looks a proper state.
We've tried talking to them and all i got was abuse and threats - typical chavvy couple. This has obviously made them even more inclined to do it.....
Where do I stand with some sort of bollards being put in?
A number of other houses in the street have done the same due to similar issues. Some using rocks and others old sleepers/posts concreted in.
I couldn't care less if they parked in the road outside - I'm just sick of it looking so roughed up.
Council have apparently warned one person about bollards but when challenged for precedent they backed down.
Should I be asking them first or "asking for forgiveness" after?
I obviously want to protect myself from the neighbour potentially trying to claim anything like their car got damaged/ they tripped on it etc....
About 50/50 council built vs private. Ours is ex council.
Our driveway ends on a pavement, then about 15ft further to the dropped kerb is tarmac with a grassed area either side- with yet another path the other side. Whole street is largely the same. Everything past our drive is council owned.
A neighbor across the road has taken to parking immediately outside our house on this peice of grass. The area now resembles The Somme with deep rutted tracks and mud absolutely everywhere. Looks a proper state.
We've tried talking to them and all i got was abuse and threats - typical chavvy couple. This has obviously made them even more inclined to do it.....
Where do I stand with some sort of bollards being put in?
A number of other houses in the street have done the same due to similar issues. Some using rocks and others old sleepers/posts concreted in.
I couldn't care less if they parked in the road outside - I'm just sick of it looking so roughed up.
Council have apparently warned one person about bollards but when challenged for precedent they backed down.
Should I be asking them first or "asking for forgiveness" after?
I obviously want to protect myself from the neighbour potentially trying to claim anything like their car got damaged/ they tripped on it etc....
Edited by Biker9090 on Friday 23 January 00:36
Copy your neighbours, get some enormous boulders and place them haphazardly on the verge so it's impossible to park anything with less ground clearance than Bigfoot, it's common enough in the nearest town to me on streets with that layout, pavement-grass-road, as some people are just selfish pricks. They do need to be big though, otherwise they're too easy to shift even by lazy selfish pricks and boulders that big will be expensive.
Have you spoken to the council as they are the land owners?
Perhaps send them some photos of the car and the damage.
(Being PH, I hope you have checked for MOT, Tax and insurance)
We've had similar, although the land was privately owned. We found boulders are expensive and often get stolen, so used bits of tree trunk to good effect.
Perhaps send them some photos of the car and the damage.
(Being PH, I hope you have checked for MOT, Tax and insurance)
We've had similar, although the land was privately owned. We found boulders are expensive and often get stolen, so used bits of tree trunk to good effect.
1) They're not deliberately destroying the verge, they're parking their car there.
2) You can't legally put anything in the road like bollards, since its an obstruction
If the grass is no longer and its just mud, you could fill the holes and level it up with hardcore. That way, it will be more durable.
2) You can't legally put anything in the road like bollards, since its an obstruction
If the grass is no longer and its just mud, you could fill the holes and level it up with hardcore. That way, it will be more durable.
hidetheelephants said:
Copy your neighbours, get some enormous boulders and place them haphazardly on the verge so it's impossible to park anything with less ground clearance than Bigfoot, it's common enough in the nearest town to me on streets with that layout, pavement-grass-road, as some people are just selfish pricks. They do need to be big though, otherwise they're too easy to shift even by lazy selfish pricks and boulders that big will be expensive.
This. I definitely wouldn’t be asking for permission, just get on with it. 
paul_c123 said:
1) They're not deliberately destroying the verge, they're parking their car there.
2) You can't legally put anything in the road like bollards, since its an obstruction
If the grass is no longer and its just mud, you could fill the holes and level it up with hardcore. That way, it will be more durable.
1) Yes, they are. 2) You can't legally put anything in the road like bollards, since its an obstruction
If the grass is no longer and its just mud, you could fill the holes and level it up with hardcore. That way, it will be more durable.
There are plenty of other spaces available in the road. They are being lazy and now making a deliberate attempt to make it worse - as can be seen by how she exited the car yesterday muttering something about grass and laughing with her friend whilst pointing at the ruts.
2) Well done again at not reading the question. I am talking about a VERGE on between two sets of pavement.
paul_c123 said:
If the grass is no longer and its just mud, you could fill the holes and level it up with hardcore. That way, it will be more durable.
I used to know someone who did this on the patch of grass between the pavement and their house that they used to park on and was getting churned up. The council made them remove it.Its council land and presumably they mow it (when it's actually grass) so they're probably not going to be happy with you putting anything on there that's not agreed beforehand.
Slow.Patrol said:
Have you spoken to the council as they are the land owners?
Perhaps send them some photos of the car and the damage.
(Being PH, I hope you have checked for MOT, Tax and insurance)
We've had similar, although the land was privately owned. We found boulders are expensive and often get stolen, so used bits of tree trunk to good effect.
I'm waiting on a response from them. Typically they operate in geological time.... Perhaps send them some photos of the car and the damage.
(Being PH, I hope you have checked for MOT, Tax and insurance)
We've had similar, although the land was privately owned. We found boulders are expensive and often get stolen, so used bits of tree trunk to good effect.
Yeah, it's all legal on the face of it.
They do have something very odd going on though.
Leaving at 08:30.
Back an hour later.
Leaving again at 10:30 and back soon after.
Leaving again at 14:00 and back at 19:30.
The car is then parked there like clockwork every single night.
Neither seem to work or even dress remotely like they are (constant gym clothing but neither look to even know what one is) yet they're in a (current value) £60k car (I'm guessing leased) and a council house......
(I wfh in an upstairs front room so see them everyday)
Biker9090 said:
I'm waiting on a response from them. Typically they operate in geological time....
Yeah, it's all legal on the face of it.
They do have something very odd going on though.
Leaving at 08:30.
Back an hour later.
Leaving again at 10:30 and back soon after.
Leaving again at 14:00 and back at 19:30.
The car is then parked there like clockwork every single night.
Neither seem to work or even dress remotely like they are (constant gym clothing but neither look to even know what one is) yet they're in a (current value) £60k car (I'm guessing leased) and a council house......
(I wfh in an upstairs front room so see them everyday)
I'd try to not let it bother you. There's not much you can do about it.Yeah, it's all legal on the face of it.
They do have something very odd going on though.
Leaving at 08:30.
Back an hour later.
Leaving again at 10:30 and back soon after.
Leaving again at 14:00 and back at 19:30.
The car is then parked there like clockwork every single night.
Neither seem to work or even dress remotely like they are (constant gym clothing but neither look to even know what one is) yet they're in a (current value) £60k car (I'm guessing leased) and a council house......
(I wfh in an upstairs front room so see them everyday)
Colonel Cupcake said:
Biker9090 said:
JQ said:
This. I definitely wouldn t be asking for permission, just get on with it.
I would do but what happens if someone knocks into it - am I then not going to be liable?If you’re properly nervous perhaps take a photo of it just so you have a record of how bloody obvious it is.
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