Oak framed garage - Supplier suggestions and prices please

[Renegade Master]

As said in my other thread, new username, long time user. Lost my access in the change to login via email address

I would like to erect an oak framed, wood clad, double garage, with lean-to type store on one side.

I have received a quote from one long established manufacturer, who were very helpful on the phone, for the following spec and parts included:

2 Bay Oak Fronted Catslide Frame - Half Hipped roof - 6x6m garage floor area.
Oak front top plate, oak posts & oak curved braces on front elevation.
Softwood sole & top plate, softwood posts, softwood curved braces, softwood infill stud work @ 600 centres & softwood tie beams to the rear & side elevations.
Softwood pre cut roof rafters @ 400 centres.
Oak dowels and bolts for frame assembly.
6x2 provided for the catslide rafters @ 400 centres to be cut & pitched on site.
Pre made stud walls for catslide rear.
Softwood 8 featheredge cladding (softwood trims included, 2x2 to front, 4x2 to rear).
Integrated 3 Post Log store (6m wide, 1.2m deep) includes studwork & cladding to fully enclose RHS.
Structural Calculations for the frame.
Delivery included.
Total Cost - £7,300.00 + VAT

My friend who is a builder, and would be the one doing the concrete pad and the building/installing, said that sounds too cheap... and he says it won't be actual one-piece oak posts at the front, but instead suggested it might be finger jointed oak to make the posts.

I asked queried this with the supplier and they said it will be be 6x6 green oak pieces for the posts and all visible front oak work.

Advice, prices, suppliers, comments, etc all welcome as I know nothing about this stuff.

My oak porch came from Paragon Oak a few years ago who were brilliant, but I haven't gone back to them for this, as I suspect it'll be eleventy million pounds.

Edited by Renegade Master on Wednesday 14th January 12:07

[mk1storm]

Watching with great interest. This is almost exactly what I'm needing to look into very shortly.

[mcelliott]

We used a company called Carpenter Oak, they supplied all the necessary timber for our oak framed house and double garage, no complaints whatsoever, really helpful all throughout the process.

Can put up some pics later if you like

Edited by mcelliott on Wednesday 14th January 12:20

[Renegade Master]

mk1storm said:

Watching with great interest. This is almost exactly what I'm needing to look into very shortly.

I know there are a few old threads about oak garages, but prices, suppliers, and materials have changed a lot in the past 5 years, so thought it was worth starting a new one.

My builder roughly estimates about £5000ish for install (Concrete pad dug and poured, erection of kit, roofing, supply and slate the roof, couple of lights wired in). He's done a few of them in the past.

So that gets me to around £14,000 all done including VAT.

Currently I am asking other oak frame suppliers for a price.

[OutInTheShed]

Any chance of naming the bargain supplier please?
I should be building something this year, I'm looking at building from scratch vs a kit.
A kit would save time, and it seems to me that kit companies get materials cheap and you only pay for one delivery?

[Snow and Rocks]

No connection and no direct experience as I ended up buying the raw timber from a local sawmill and doing it all myself but I got some very competitive quotes from Fox Framing.

Worth a look.

[mcelliott]

Couple of pics of ours from last summer

[OutInTheShed]

mcelliott said:

Couple of pics of ours from last summer

I like that.

TBH, I really just need a facade, the rest of it can be a rough old shed, as it's going to be hidden by shrubbery.

A nice bit of oak on the front, the rest of it low maintenance high insulation?

[Renegade Master]

OutInTheShed said:

Any chance of naming the bargain supplier please?
I should be building something this year, I'm looking at building from scratch vs a kit.
A kit would save time, and it seems to me that kit companies get materials cheap and you only pay for one delivery?

It was Swift Oak in Maidstone. Their products look really good in their gallery.

[AlvinSultana]

I have installed a number of kits from this supplier:

https://www.tradeoak.com/oak-framed-garages/two-ba...

Prices and quality are good. Costs of all the other elements depend on spec, and difficulty of delivering. (ground work, ease of electricity supply etc), but £5k is very reasonable.

Edited by AlvinSultana on Thursday 15th January 16:06

Edited by AlvinSultana on Thursday 15th January 16:19

[OutInTheShed]

Renegade Master said:

OutInTheShed said:

Any chance of naming the bargain supplier please?
I should be building something this year, I'm looking at building from scratch vs a kit.
A kit would save time, and it seems to me that kit companies get materials cheap and you only pay for one delivery?

It was Swift Oak in Maidstone. Their products look really good in their gallery.

Thanks!

[mk1storm]

Thanks for the info shared here, some really useful names/links.

In general, does anyone know just how much more (if anything) one of these kits cost over and above say getting just the front oak timbers and then sourcing all of the other wood for the frame, roof and cladding yourself from a timber yard ?

I appreciate it's a hell of a lot more convenient to get the kit. Maybe the kit suppliers can source the timber cheaper than individuals can so perhaps it's not more expensive, but just wondered what the difference might be and if anyone has ever looked into it.

[Snow and Rocks]

Not directly answering your question but if it's just the look you're after and you want to build it yourself there's nothing stopping you from finding a local sawmill and getting some oak or similar cut to suit.

I typically use Douglas Fir or Larch because it's significantly cheaper up here in Aberdeenshire but oak is available if I wanted it.

[OutInTheShed]

mk1storm said:

Thanks for the info shared here, some really useful names/links.

In general, does anyone know just how much more (if anything) one of these kits cost over and above say getting just the front oak timbers and then sourcing all of the other wood for the frame, roof and cladding yourself from a timber yard ?

I appreciate it's a hell of a lot more convenient to get the kit. Maybe the kit suppliers can source the timber cheaper than individuals can so perhaps it's not more expensive, but just wondered what the difference might be and if anyone has ever looked into it.

I think the kit makers get their cladding and other timber at a good price.
It's hard to get quotes for every piece of timber you'd need.
It's easy to ratchet up a lot of £20 delivery charges if you order from separate sources.

A part of the problem is not knowing what dimensions of timber are acceptable, how do we know what wall framing we need for a garage that's not subject to building regs?

From my perspective, I'm interested in a workshop building with extremely good insulation. I want to be able to keep it warm(ish) and dry with cheap running costs. I'm done with trying to work with cold tools and stuff getting trashed in damp sheds. So a lot of 'off the peg' solutions would need upgrades.
But I'm also picky about what it will look like, it needs to fit in the context of the house and would be fairly 'public facing' because visitor parking is at the back of our house. But I'm also constrained with time, I can't start for a couple of months at least and it would be needed by Autumn. I'm willing to pay a bit of a premium to be sure of a quick trouble free solution.

It doesn't help that many kit building websites are either shy about their prices or have big discounts half the time.
Or they offer every combination of Length and Width, apart from our slab dimensions!

I'm abroad with patchy internet at the moment, so trying to research is frustrating.

[BigBen]

I got my kit from trade oak. Thread here

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I think the kit was a bit more than you mention but not much and it is a bigger garage with attic trusses in one half.

Ben

[mk1storm]

BigBen said:

I got my kit from trade oak. Thread here

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I think the kit was a bit more than you mention but not much and it is a bigger garage with attic trusses in one half.

Ben

Nice thread thanks (and your tight back passage comment didn't go unnoticed! )

Sorry if it's stated somewhere, but what were the external width/depth measurements for yours ? Seems ample space around your two cars.

[BigBen]

mk1storm said:

BigBen said:

I got my kit from trade oak. Thread here

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I think the kit was a bit more than you mention but not much and it is a bigger garage with attic trusses in one half.

Ben

Nice thread thanks (and your tight back passage comment didn't go unnoticed! )

Sorry if it's stated somewhere, but what were the external width/depth measurements for yours ? Seems ample space around your two cars.

5.5 deep, so just about too short for the subsequently purchased Bentley Continental R, 6.1 wide with 2.8m openings. The internal space is slightly wider due to the position of the existing wall.

[paulmac]

Monarch oak here, 6m deep by 6.2m wide, plenty of space for the large & small car. No catslide so a good roof space, price of kit and for them to install was very competitive.

It’s been up for year now & all good, I just need to get some doors / electrics etc…