Pot hole performance statistics
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgj1m1ze8go
You can now look up how well your Highway Authority is performing. Most fall in the Amber zone - neither good, not bad.
The bit that is missing is the number of potholes or stretches of road, still requiring repair. I live in East Cheshire, an Amber score, where there are plenty of Chelsea Tractors to break up the roads and bounce over their consequences.
There are sections of road that have been recently patched but within 30m developing holes left untouched.. Many of the roads are way beyond patching and need resurfacing. Footways are no better and gullies do not get cleaned and so the surface deteriorates further come frosty weather.
This dashboard is utterly useless without being put into context of how many holes and road sections need urgent repair. My guess is that number is growing larger. We even see potholes in Motorways these days, the who country is a complete mess and this feeble effort does very little to address this serious issue.
You can now look up how well your Highway Authority is performing. Most fall in the Amber zone - neither good, not bad.
The bit that is missing is the number of potholes or stretches of road, still requiring repair. I live in East Cheshire, an Amber score, where there are plenty of Chelsea Tractors to break up the roads and bounce over their consequences.
There are sections of road that have been recently patched but within 30m developing holes left untouched.. Many of the roads are way beyond patching and need resurfacing. Footways are no better and gullies do not get cleaned and so the surface deteriorates further come frosty weather.
This dashboard is utterly useless without being put into context of how many holes and road sections need urgent repair. My guess is that number is growing larger. We even see potholes in Motorways these days, the who country is a complete mess and this feeble effort does very little to address this serious issue.
I've just had two new tyres and my tracking was 3 mm out thanks to hitting a pothole just before Xmas.
It was either one on the bloody A303 in heavy rain late at night, or just off the A38. What's noticeable is that the roads pretty much everywhere are utterly terrible but that's nothing new.
It was either one on the bloody A303 in heavy rain late at night, or just off the A38. What's noticeable is that the roads pretty much everywhere are utterly terrible but that's nothing new.
Notice that Greenwich is red which doesnt surprise me.
Over Christmas my Dad was driving urgently to a hospital and hit a pothole on the way that destroyed one tyre. He then had to drive the rest of the way on one completely flat tire. Lots of money for speed humps in Greenwich.
My area is amber and actually the roads around here are not that bad. Where I live though is a fairly new (roughly two decades) development so maybe not the time to get that bad
Over Christmas my Dad was driving urgently to a hospital and hit a pothole on the way that destroyed one tyre. He then had to drive the rest of the way on one completely flat tire. Lots of money for speed humps in Greenwich.
My area is amber and actually the roads around here are not that bad. Where I live though is a fairly new (roughly two decades) development so maybe not the time to get that bad
Depends on what the traffic light score is based on and how the councils sort their own metrics
In West Sussex around me the roads are horrendous. They get reported and eventually get repaired.
But I reality a road worker comes out, chucks a couple of spades of tarmac in the hole. Wacks it down and leaves.
Never cleaned, sealed or made to look good, it literally looks like a black cow pat.
Within weeks it is disintegrating and failed.
Presumably it was ticked off and looks good on their books.
When it fails and get reported it's probably "new" damage to them.
(Then of course the contractor probably gets paid again!)
In West Sussex around me the roads are horrendous. They get reported and eventually get repaired.
But I reality a road worker comes out, chucks a couple of spades of tarmac in the hole. Wacks it down and leaves.
Never cleaned, sealed or made to look good, it literally looks like a black cow pat.
Within weeks it is disintegrating and failed.
Presumably it was ticked off and looks good on their books.
When it fails and get reported it's probably "new" damage to them.
(Then of course the contractor probably gets paid again!)
GadgeS3C said:
Pretty amazed that Notts is amber. Not the local experience. The roads usually improve when you get into any of the surrounding counties.
To be fair though, quite a few roads have been resurfaced in the last year. They were really dire before.
Was just going to post this. Derbyshire doesn’t seem worse than Notts, probably better if anything. To be fair though, quite a few roads have been resurfaced in the last year. They were really dire before.
Buzz84 said:
Depends on what the traffic light score is based on and how the councils sort their own metrics
In West Sussex around me the roads are horrendous. They get reported and eventually get repaired.
But I reality a road worker comes out, chucks a couple of spades of tarmac in the hole. Wacks it down and leaves.
Never cleaned, sealed or made to look good, it literally looks like a black cow pat.
Within weeks it is disintegrating and failed.
Presumably it was ticked off and looks good on their books.
When it fails and get reported it's probably "new" damage to them.
(Then of course the contractor probably gets paid again!)
Methodology is here. Should be easy to game by working out what the effort per score ratio is for each bracket and work on that and the fact that so many councils are amber means they aren't doing a very good job of differentiating between the councils. They do share the scores so anyone who has time and half a brain when it comes to data should be able to improve on it.In West Sussex around me the roads are horrendous. They get reported and eventually get repaired.
But I reality a road worker comes out, chucks a couple of spades of tarmac in the hole. Wacks it down and leaves.
Never cleaned, sealed or made to look good, it literally looks like a black cow pat.
Within weeks it is disintegrating and failed.
Presumably it was ticked off and looks good on their books.
When it fails and get reported it's probably "new" damage to them.
(Then of course the contractor probably gets paid again!)
I am surprised that Staffordshire is amber, I would have fully expected red. That county suffers the most inept cluster of buffoons sitting in their council offices. Shropshire too can be poor.
We're in Worcestershire and I can't really complain, a local roundabout has just been totally resurfaced as there were a few rougher patches on it. Now, if that had been Staffs, they'd either have ignored it completely or at a push, sent Fat Dave round in a knackered flatbed transit to dump a bit of lukewarm tar in some but not all potholes after 6 months. In my opinion, Worcs deserves its green rating.
We're in Worcestershire and I can't really complain, a local roundabout has just been totally resurfaced as there were a few rougher patches on it. Now, if that had been Staffs, they'd either have ignored it completely or at a push, sent Fat Dave round in a knackered flatbed transit to dump a bit of lukewarm tar in some but not all potholes after 6 months. In my opinion, Worcs deserves its green rating.
catso said:
Not sure how accurate it is.
Example being, I live in Leicestershire but near Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire and so regularly drive in all 3 and, whilst Lincs is not as bad, Notts is IME far worse than Leics, yet only Leics is rated red.
Leics was rated red because of how they spend their money, road condition for all three was amber although your example shows how their methodology hides a lot of important information:Example being, I live in Leicestershire but near Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire and so regularly drive in all 3 and, whilst Lincs is not as bad, Notts is IME far worse than Leics, yet only Leics is rated red.
Leics - A roads: 81.5 (green), B/C roads: 79.5 (amber), U roads: 73 (amber)
Lincs - A roads: 87.0 (green), B/C roads: 76.0 (amber), U roads: 27.0 (red)
Notts - A roads: 84.5 (green), B/C roads: 79.0 (amber), U roads: 20.0 (red)
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