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No not the misspelt version of The Nurburgring, the film recently released 
Obviously it’s a fictionalised dramatisation of the build up to and the opening Nuremberg trial of Goering and 21 other high ranking Nazis. The film itself has some big names and is well acted. Despite some fictionalisation, some of it is hugely accurate using the opening statements of the US prosecutor for example. However, the most shocking to me is the footage of the concentration camps and what the liberating forces discovered there. There are no words to describe the horrors and the evil of the people who committed these atrocities.
Without wanting to get too political, I’d suggest it should be compulsory viewing for some parts of society given the extreme views being pushed. There some scary parallels on display too. Some very apposite quotes for our times:
The only clue to what man can do is what man has done.
It happened, because people let it happen.
If you don’t want to watch the film, but want to see the real liberation footage then it’s available in multiple places on YouTube such as the link. Move to about 1:15 for the footage to start.
https://youtu.be/9NmaZlFlZGE?si=S1t_EIj3r-ahzAKO
Obviously it’s a fictionalised dramatisation of the build up to and the opening Nuremberg trial of Goering and 21 other high ranking Nazis. The film itself has some big names and is well acted. Despite some fictionalisation, some of it is hugely accurate using the opening statements of the US prosecutor for example. However, the most shocking to me is the footage of the concentration camps and what the liberating forces discovered there. There are no words to describe the horrors and the evil of the people who committed these atrocities.
Without wanting to get too political, I’d suggest it should be compulsory viewing for some parts of society given the extreme views being pushed. There some scary parallels on display too. Some very apposite quotes for our times:
The only clue to what man can do is what man has done.
It happened, because people let it happen.
If you don’t want to watch the film, but want to see the real liberation footage then it’s available in multiple places on YouTube such as the link. Move to about 1:15 for the footage to start.
https://youtu.be/9NmaZlFlZGE?si=S1t_EIj3r-ahzAKO
I rather enjoyed it actually, I doubt it is particularly accurate apart from certain areas, but the acting was good, the depiction of the characters was OK, but the main thing I got was this was so soon after the war and their apparent unawareness of what was going on in camps was interesting. Not surprising, but maybe also very well acted to feign knowledge.
If this portrayal of Goerring is accurate he was a formidable man
If this portrayal of Goerring is accurate he was a formidable man
Not sure I’d use the word formidable given one of the definitions includes admiration and respect, it I get your point. Rising to the top of any government requires a certain type ofmperson, but when said government is based on such evil, it takes a special type of evil to be at the sharp end. Definite psychopathic narcissist.
If you don’t think Hermann Goering was a formidable bloke then you have either ignored or misunderstood both the film and history. He was indeed also vain and had a jolly good steak of narcissism in him, neither of which stopped him being considered a formidably competent opponent. Of course it is also easier to be formidable when you have the likes of Galland and Moelders to call upon.
I read this a few years back, it covers similar ground but with interviews of other top level Nazis as well, The Nuremberg Interviews.
Opapayer said:
Not sure I d use the word formidable given one of the definitions includes admiration and respect, it I get your point. Rising to the top of any government requires a certain type ofmperson, but when said government is based on such evil, it takes a special type of evil to be at the sharp end. Definite psychopathic narcissist.
His inability to tell Hitler the truth about Luftwaffe losses should have been his undoing. How he retained the Fuehrer's trust is beyond me - presumably they were all in too deep to break up the gang.DeejRC said:
If you don t think Hermann Goering was a formidable bloke then you have either ignored or misunderstood both the film and history. He was indeed also vain and had a jolly good steak of narcissism in him, neither of which stopped him being considered a formidably competent opponent. Of course it is also easier to be formidable when you have the likes of Galland and Moelders to call upon.
Read this bit again in the post you’re replying to. Formidable but not if the definition you’re choosing involves what’s below. Opapayer said:
Not sure I’d use the word formidable given one of the definitions includes admiration and respect, but I get your point
nicanary said:
Opapayer said:
Not sure I d use the word formidable given one of the definitions includes admiration and respect, it I get your point. Rising to the top of any government requires a certain type ofmperson, but when said government is based on such evil, it takes a special type of evil to be at the sharp end. Definite psychopathic narcissist.
His inability to tell Hitler the truth about Luftwaffe losses should have been his undoing. How he retained the Fuehrer's trust is beyond me - presumably they were all in too deep to break up the gang.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff