EV from non-main dealer - would you?
EV from non-main dealer - would you?
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Duke Caboom

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Coming to the end of a 3 year deal on ID.3, purchased from a main dealer as a cautious toe in the water. Its been great as a not-particularly-interesting-but-effective everyday car. I'm going to buy another EV to replace this one.

Various EV groups I belong to can be summarised as "they don't go wrong particularly often but when they do it costs a fortune to fix them, therefore go for main dealer and manufacturer's extended warranty".

I don't really like buying new or nearly new cars because of the depreciation being the biggest cost. Traditionally I buy older but exciting cars but I have knowledge to avoid disasters and a man who can fix these if i get it wrong.

TLDR: Would you buy a 5 year old / 40k miles EV from a national car supermarket or dealer chain? How about from a gravel and Portacabin independent?

What about aftermarket warranties?

Thanks



Trevor555

4,985 posts

105 months

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Duke Caboom said:

What about aftermarket warranties?
Please let us know what you find out about that.

Interested to know whether these aftermarket warrnties will cover the batteries.

Cylon2007

591 posts

99 months

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I bought a Kia Soul First edition (my first and so far only EV) last Feb from a local car sales place, not Kia dealer. Car was 4 years old, now 5 years old and on 50K miles. I have added 10k miles to it and apart from a relpacement 12 volt battery (cost me £83 and fitted myself) it has not had any issues at all. It has a full service history but 2 are from none Kia dealers but the warranty is still active with Kia so I have another 2 years manufaturer waranty cover.
In a nutshell yes I would and I did.

Uncle boshy

458 posts

90 months

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R Symons bought a Tesla 3 at auction with over 200k on the clock

https://youtu.be/kVqkFfn7u8A

plfrench

4,030 posts

289 months

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Trevor555 said:
Duke Caboom said:

What about aftermarket warranties?
Please let us know what you find out about that.

Interested to know whether these aftermarket warrnties will cover the batteries.
The battery would still be covered under manufacturer warranty till 8yrs / 100k miles, so shouldn’t be a problem for the age / mileage the OP is talking about.

Trevor555

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plfrench said:
Trevor555 said:
Duke Caboom said:

What about aftermarket warranties?
Please let us know what you find out about that.

Interested to know whether these aftermarket warrnties will cover the batteries.
The battery would still be covered under manufacturer warranty till 8yrs / 100k miles, so shouldn t be a problem for the age / mileage the OP is talking about.
My question still stands.

What if the EV had missed an inspection?

Invalidating the 8 year warranty?

Would aftermarket cover the battery?

sixor8

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289 months

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Manufacturer warranties on the battery seem comprehensive and transfer between owners. Since it requires no servicing (perhaps a coolant change), there is no oil to be missed out or other moving wearing parts to allow for going pop. Why not ask customer services at Kia, Ford, Stellantis etc by email?

If its similar to corrosion warranties in the past that were 7 - 10 years or more, their get-out was not having the annual 'inspection' which is really wasn't before they'd honour it. frown I haven't read about any battery warranty refusals for non dealer history and the anti-EV press would jump on one if it had.

Dave.

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274 months

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Duke Caboom said:
Coming to the end of a 3 year deal on ID.3, purchased from a main dealer as a cautious toe in the water. Its been great as a not-particularly-interesting-but-effective everyday car. I'm going to buy another EV to replace this one.

Various EV groups I belong to can be summarised as "they don't go wrong particularly often but when they do it costs a fortune to fix them, therefore go for main dealer and manufacturer's extended warranty".

I don't really like buying new or nearly new cars because of the depreciation being the biggest cost. Traditionally I buy older but exciting cars but I have knowledge to avoid disasters and a man who can fix these if i get it wrong.

TLDR: Would you buy a 5 year old / 40k miles EV from a national car supermarket or dealer chain? How about from a gravel and Portacabin independent?

What about aftermarket warranties?

Thanks
Why not stick with what you've got? Are you changing just for changes sake?

Buzz84

1,386 posts

170 months

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Trevor555 said:
My question still stands.

What if the EV had missed an inspection?

Invalidating the 8 year warranty?

Would aftermarket cover the battery?
What happens if an ICE car missed a service?
Would that invalidate the warranty?
Would an aftermarket warranty then cover that vehicle?

I highly suspect the answers would be the same and situations like that are well documented.

Warranty providers (OEM and aftermarket) will state in their T+C's that manufacturers schedules must be followed and that would be regardless of drivetrain.

Only difference will be what those schedules actually are.

Evanivitch

25,496 posts

143 months

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Trevor555 said:
My question still stands.

What if the EV had missed an inspection?

Invalidating the 8 year warranty?

Would aftermarket cover the battery?
Seems a broad question on a broad market...

Panamax

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55 months

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Dave. said:
Why not stick with what you've got? Are you changing just for changes sake?
Agreed, it's such an obvious question.

this is my username

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I bought a 5 year-old id.3 from a main dealer for a good price. I took (and promptly paid off) the finance to get 2 years approved-used warranty and bought a 3rd year of VW warranty for about £400.

You don’t necessarily pay a premium for a main dealer car, and the add-ons like warranty can add a lot of value.

Trevor555

4,985 posts

105 months

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Evanivitch said:
Trevor555 said:
My question still stands.

What if the EV had missed an inspection?

Invalidating the 8 year warranty?

Would aftermarket cover the battery?
Seems a broad question on a broad market...
Yes it is.

But the OP is asking if he's safe to buy a used EV from a non main dealer, who'll put an aftermarket warranty on the car.

I recently collected a Kona EV that hadn't been inspected as per the book, and the Hyundai main dealer couldn't retail that car, so it went to an independent used car dealer.

Used car warranties are put on a used car at the point they're sold, often regardless of previous histories.

So OP needs to ask if these aftermarket warranties will cover the batteries if the manufaturer won't.




Duke Caboom

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Panamax said:
Agreed, it's such an obvious question.
It's on a PCP and not worth anything like the agreed final payment. I could well end up with something very similar though. I have read about people using trackers to let their car go through the system and then buy it back when it appears on a forecourt, which I am considering, but I think it would be too old / high mileage to reappear at a main dealer.

JurassicGTS

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216 months

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Duke Caboom said:
It's on a PCP and not worth anything like the agreed final payment. I could well end up with something very similar though. I have read about people using trackers to let their car go through the system and then buy it back when it appears on a forecourt, which I am considering, but I think it would be too old / high mileage to reappear at a main dealer.
But as you know the car and service history, no real risk buying it from anywhere it turns up?

Duke Caboom

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JurassicGTS said:
But as you know the car and service history, no real risk buying it from anywhere it turns up?
Yeah, bit I'm still concerned about potential repair costs, even though I know this one appears to be a good one.

Macneil

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101 months

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Duke Caboom said:
Yeah, bit I'm still concerned about potential repair costs, even though I know this one appears to be a good one.
It sounds like you wouldn't buy a used car from yourself



DorsetSparky

539 posts

31 months

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We bought from an EV specialist and warranty is covered by Warrantywise. Going forward if we have a concern with batteries I note that Cleevely EV offer battery warranties too. No issue not buying from main dealer, yet wife has always only ever bought Approved Used before.

SWoll

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279 months

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We bought from an independent back in March. £22.5k for a 3 year old etron 55 sportback, FSH, 35k miles. Put an official Audi used warranty on it immediately that covers everything other than the battery and saved £4-5k on AUC prices.

Most EV's come with 8 year 100k battery warranties anyway so not something to worry about.

Europa Jon

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144 months

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In general, I would definitely buy a used EV from a non-franchised dealer. It'd have a warranty period to claim on if I found anything wrong.
I like to think that I research the hell out of big purchases like cars, so would only be interested in models known for long-lasting quality and reliability - sorry i-Pace, Stellantis and Tesla.