What to do with 12 acres of land??
What to do with 12 acres of land??
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robinh73

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1,231 posts

220 months

Yesterday (09:23)
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Morning all! I spend my time split between the family house (which is lived in by my elderly father) and my fiancée's house. The family house is a former farm with 12 acres of land split into 3 fields. I run my own tree surgery business from there but feel that the land has never been used properly to generate an income. This is something I am keen to do, hence my post. The one stumbling block is that to access the property, you have to go over a manually operated railway level crossing, so high volumes of traffic are out and things such a 40ft storage containers are physically impossible to get up the lane. Glamping is one option but the railway crossing may be an issue. I had also considered growing Christmas trees, a longer term project but nice earner. Any other thoughts?

oblio

5,545 posts

247 months

Yesterday (09:51)
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Off road track for bikes/off road vehicles?

Rent it out on a controlled/localised/friends and family basis so you can manage the traffic crossing the railway?

Oilchange

9,428 posts

280 months

Yesterday (09:54)
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Chickens and ducks.
An endless supply of fabulous eggs and poultry.

hidetheelephants

32,552 posts

213 months

Yesterday (09:56)
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The easiest will inevitably be renting it to whoever farms the neighbouring fields. Solar panels would be reasonably straightforward aside from planning and the land underneath can still be used for sheep/goat/etc grazing; where's the nearest power line?

snotrag

15,423 posts

231 months

Yesterday (10:00)
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Thinking a little laterally and selfishly but... If the access to the land starts to become much more frequent, then doesnt the fact its a manually operated level crossing become the problem of the Railway Network, not yours?


We have had some rather big infrastructure projects put in near me recently where these manual level crossings have been replaced by other options by the railway lot, to access fields/cottages etc.

I'm sure that in their eyes, the only reason they are leaving it alone is because you rarely use it...

Edited by snotrag on Tuesday 30th December 10:05

robinh73

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1,231 posts

220 months

Yesterday (10:03)
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Interesting suggestions there. Whilst the petrol head in me would love to have cars/bikes hooning about, the noise would end up annoying people I fear. I did it myself for many years when young and even then someone complained. Ducks and chickens would be good, sell the eggs on. Solar, interesting idea. The nearest power line that would take a decent infeed is too far away to be viable I suspect, but worth looking at.

Oilchange

9,428 posts

280 months

Yesterday (10:26)
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Or llamas, alpacas, wallabies and ostriches (even bigger eggs!).

I delivered groceries to a small farm once that had wallabies in their field, couldn't believe what I was seeing at first. The lady said they were fun until one escaped and they had multiple reports from confused motorists hehe



MC Bodge

26,417 posts

195 months

Yesterday (10:33)
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Obstacle courses.
Mountain bike tracks.
Running track.
Natural play/movement area with logs etc.
Re-wilding enclosure/plant trees/old breed cattle.

Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 30th December 11:32

Vsix and Vtec

1,227 posts

38 months

Yesterday (10:35)
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Have a look at what criteria you need to fulfill to qualify for a countryside stewardship scheme. The government is paying farmers a not unreasonable amount to have meadowland and wild flower fields to help ecosystem regeneration. You could simply add wild flower mix to your existing grassland. Alternatively see if there are any dairy farms near you needing to rent extra pasture land access, grass fed cows are a part of milk attaining Red Tractor standards.

Farmland is often best suited to farm solutions, seems like the obvious direction to go in.

PushedDover

6,888 posts

73 months

Yesterday (10:59)
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decent countryside around, and brave to touch a toe in to 'Mad Horse women' ?

Could you put a livery together there? 12 acres, four horses, £3k a month......

mcelliott

9,876 posts

201 months

Yesterday (11:02)
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Depending where you are how about establishing a small vineyard, or grow a crop of some description, we are in the process of setting up a small homestead where we are, goats chickens along with fruit trees and veg.

robinh73

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1,231 posts

220 months

Yesterday (12:00)
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Thank you again for the continued suggestions and input. I am going to write them all down and run through it all. There is so much potential and I just want to realise that. For reference, the house is on Anglesey, south side of the island near Menai Bridge.

blue_haddock

4,750 posts

87 months

Yesterday (12:45)
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Local to me in Shropshire there has been a big rise in secure dog exercise fields. Shouldnt be too much traffic and once the fields has been made properly secure there shouldnt be too much ongoing costs apart from a booking website and someone to pick up any stray dog turds!

blueST

4,726 posts

236 months

Yesterday (12:57)
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It's not going to make you rich I'm sure, but is there a government scheme(s) to fund planting and maintaining a wood or forest. I'm sure Harry Metcalfe has done something like this. You could plant a load of oak, name it after your family or kids or something and leave a legacy for generations to come?

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/tree-pla...

The_Doc

5,857 posts

240 months

Yesterday (12:59)
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Build a mud/fun course

A tough mudder type. They must be cheap to build and small upkeep.

Hold monthly races.

The running crowd want it dirty, wet and idiotically they keep coming back for it again and again.

Fill the course with pigs when the race isn't on.

Panamax

7,615 posts

54 months

Yesterday (14:04)
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You need to be careful because of the tax implications.

A CGT exempt main residence is only a main residence if it's a main residence, and that includes land around it. If you start doing commercial activities those areas will become commercial and subject to Capital Gains Tax.

An IHT exempt farm is only a farm if it's a farm. If you start doing commercial activities those areas will change from agricultural to business. Depending how it's done there may or may not be a business exemption from Inheritance Tax.

If you want to continue to have the IHT exemption while not farming yourselves the best way forward is to rent the fields to someone else for genuine farming purposes under what's called a Farm Business Tenancy. This is a specific type of tenancy which enables IHT relief to continue.

A500leroy

7,443 posts

138 months

Yesterday (14:19)
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Phone mast?

Tickle

5,857 posts

224 months

Yesterday (14:20)
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Pond/lake, wildflowers, bee hives, ducks and enjoy it.

Or, rent it out to an outdoor cookery school venture or local school / community allotments (limited plots) - you get seasonal veg and or use for the outdoor cookery suggestion.


The Three D Mucketeer

6,874 posts

247 months

Yesterday (14:26)
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Solar Farm ? Isn't there a large nuclear reactor on Anglesey ? So good access to the National Grid
Sheep can keep the grass down

Tango13

9,794 posts

196 months

Yesterday (15:10)
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How about building an underground bunker complete with a large tank of piranha fish, a monorail and a sliding roof for the launch and recovery of orbital rockets?