EU to delay ICE car ban until 2040
Discussion
https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/9999/eu-to-delay-pet...
Potentially interesting development if true, will the UK government follow suit and delay from 2030 to 2035 or even 2040?
Potentially interesting development if true, will the UK government follow suit and delay from 2030 to 2035 or even 2040?
It's like a big old game of chinese whispers 
The earlier stories were reporting about the potential allowance of e-fuels / low carbon fuels beyond 2035 (i.e. not boggo basic Diesel or petrol), this Carwow story thought that level of nuance was incidental so didn't bother to include!
I really can't see the UK doing anything with this as we have no need to change course.

The earlier stories were reporting about the potential allowance of e-fuels / low carbon fuels beyond 2035 (i.e. not boggo basic Diesel or petrol), this Carwow story thought that level of nuance was incidental so didn't bother to include!
I really can't see the UK doing anything with this as we have no need to change course.
There's literally no point in having the EV industry with China having 3000 coal fired power stations.
When you think about it the whole thing is a bait and switch.
The west sacrifice their whole car building industry. Cheap Government subsidised crappy Chinese EV dealers popping up like Turkish Barbers all whilst China are still building NEW coal powered power stations. Idea totally crazy we needed to stop it all and sanction China into reducing emissions.
All that's going to happen is China will be the world's car supplier and eventually ratchet prices up once the last VW plant uses closed.
When you think about it the whole thing is a bait and switch.
The west sacrifice their whole car building industry. Cheap Government subsidised crappy Chinese EV dealers popping up like Turkish Barbers all whilst China are still building NEW coal powered power stations. Idea totally crazy we needed to stop it all and sanction China into reducing emissions.
All that's going to happen is China will be the world's car supplier and eventually ratchet prices up once the last VW plant uses closed.
Saw this covered by Scottish Car Clan on YouTube.
The 2035 Engine Ban Is About To Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OucjJR2swi4
My initial thought was if the provision is ICE can continue but only if using sustainable fuels/efuels will there be enough production for all the existing ICE or will it mean limited supply which would effectively lead to higher price per gallon and price out normal folk?
Afaik sustainable fuel and efuels (e.g. Porsche's initiative) produce synthetic fuel from greener sources than oil refinement so may have implications on older engine/fuel system compatibility like ethanol does that can degrade some materials quicker than others? i.e. they may game the system so only new ICE cars have the right materials in the engine bay to cope with the new fuels, allowing historic ICE to wither as traditional petrol supplies dwindle due to falling demand and tax incentives to move to greener transport options.
So I'm not hopeful the governments of UK and Europe will do the right thing if they only want to appease the local car makers that are kicking up the fuss, who will only be interested in selling new vehicles not ensuring old ones remain supported.
The 2035 Engine Ban Is About To Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OucjJR2swi4
My initial thought was if the provision is ICE can continue but only if using sustainable fuels/efuels will there be enough production for all the existing ICE or will it mean limited supply which would effectively lead to higher price per gallon and price out normal folk?
Afaik sustainable fuel and efuels (e.g. Porsche's initiative) produce synthetic fuel from greener sources than oil refinement so may have implications on older engine/fuel system compatibility like ethanol does that can degrade some materials quicker than others? i.e. they may game the system so only new ICE cars have the right materials in the engine bay to cope with the new fuels, allowing historic ICE to wither as traditional petrol supplies dwindle due to falling demand and tax incentives to move to greener transport options.
So I'm not hopeful the governments of UK and Europe will do the right thing if they only want to appease the local car makers that are kicking up the fuss, who will only be interested in selling new vehicles not ensuring old ones remain supported.
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