Saving Private Ryan
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Athlon

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5,544 posts

225 months

Saturday
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I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

j4r4lly

766 posts

154 months

Saturday
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It s an excellent film but does unfortunately have an anti British undertone to it in some of the scenes.

Hacksaw Ridge is another film that makes a massive impact in some of the combat sequences.

I was at the Cambridge American Cemetery recently. It’s the only American WWII cemetery in the UK with over 3,800 buried there and more than 5,100 on the wall of names for those with no known graves. An intensely moving and thought provoking place.



Edited by j4r4lly on Saturday 22 November 23:24

Kerniki

58 posts

4 months

Saturday
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Athlon said:
I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.
Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to smile

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?

hidetheelephants

32,064 posts

212 months

Saturday
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It was a bloody shambles for the 1st wave, but the thin german defence yielded to allied planning and overwhelming numbers by the end of the day. A number of things went wrong but probably the loss of most of the DD Shermans was the single biggest contributor to the grievous losses

Countdown

45,943 posts

215 months

Saturday
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Athlon said:
I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.
Agreed.

I can’t watch the opening scenes of SPR again.

FiF

47,423 posts

270 months

I think the general view is that there were some sections where the scenes from SPR are truly representative.

However there were other sections where it's not representative and official military records show various landings with no casualties or even woundings.

Certainly there were some where things were tricky in a different way where the plan broke down so you had, for example troops landing but without planned armoured firepower support and thus pinned down until something could be rustled up and a particularly well positioned gun employment dealt with.

Certainly Hollywood being Hollywood there is an unfortunate emphasis on USA military input with little recognition of UK and especially Canadian actions. That's also not to mention the input from Royal Navy central to the whole op.

Warhavernet

457 posts

6 months

It's not a documentary, it's very loosely based on the Niland brothers so dramatic licence is allowed, plus it's made from an American perspective that they won the war, which irks the English who think they won the war, but if veterans who experienced the carnage are anything to go by the first 40 minutes of SPR get their approval as an authentic, terrible vision of real battle, that testimony is good enough for me.

Terminator X

18,757 posts

223 months

True story bro, a mate of mine was an extra on the same boat as Tom Hanks - huge close up of him, clear as day in the film.

TX.

Jasandjules

71,560 posts

248 months

It's one of the best opening scenes of any movie IMHO.

MCBrowncoat

1,442 posts

165 months

While since I've seen it, but there's also a very specific Monty dig isn't there?

Which I remember thinking - what was the point of that?

But it's of that era, quite a few examples of anti- English/British sentiment in the 90s - just look at what Mel was stting out

JagLover

45,323 posts

254 months

SPR is an amazing opening act, with a rather cliched Hollywood film tacked on afterwards, complete with celebrity casting who don't look much like WW2 officers.

Band of Brothers is far superior as it maintains its authenticity all the way through.

Blue_star

418 posts

35 months

Greta movie. When it came out it crushes the thin red line. However, I think the latter is actually a more artistic representation of the Japan front. I recommend you watch it

Edited by Blue_star on Sunday 23 November 10:09

MCBrowncoat

1,442 posts

165 months

Blue_star said:
Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....
I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....

JagLover

45,323 posts

254 months

FiF said:
I think the general view is that there were some sections where the scenes from SPR are truly representative.

However there were other sections where it's not representative and official military records show various landings with no casualties or even woundings.

Certainly there were some where things were tricky in a different way where the plan broke down so you had, for example troops landing but without planned armoured firepower support and thus pinned down until something could be rustled up and a particularly well positioned gun employment dealt with.

Certainly Hollywood being Hollywood there is an unfortunate emphasis on USA military input with little recognition of UK and especially Canadian actions. That's also not to mention the input from Royal Navy central to the whole op.
Well yes, there were multiple beaches landed on that day and the movie focused on the beach which was toughest for the attackers.

On the British and Canadian beaches it tended to go better and helped in that often by the supporting armour being able to get ashore.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,265 posts

169 months

Jasandjules said:
It's one of the best opening scenes of any movie IMHO.
Isn't that a quiz question, about where the opening scene of SPR is set. The correct answer being the walk thru the graveyard.

clive_candy

920 posts

184 months

MCBrowncoat said:
Blue_star said:
Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....
I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....
Was it not shaving?

clive_candy

920 posts

184 months

Kerniki said:
Athlon said:
I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.
Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to smile

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?
There's an exchange between Hanks and the Ted Danson character where they're pretty much in agreement Monty and by extension the British are useless.

MCBrowncoat

1,442 posts

165 months

clive_candy said:
MCBrowncoat said:
Blue_star said:
Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....
I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....
Was it not shaving?
Erm, the point was it's not called Red Thin Line

j4r4lly

766 posts

154 months

MCBrowncoat said:
While since I've seen it, but there's also a very specific Monty dig isn't there?

Which I remember thinking - what was the point of that?

But it's of that era, quite a few examples of anti- English/British sentiment in the 90s - just look at what Mel was stting out
Indeed, that’s what I was referring to. It just seemed an odd comment inserted into the film and stood out to me.

FiF

47,423 posts

270 months

clive_candy said:
Kerniki said:
Athlon said:
I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.
Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to smile

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?
There's an exchange between Hanks and the Ted Danson character where they're pretty much in agreement Monty and by extension the British are useless.
Always liked Al Murray's response to that line from Danson, "You're only the barman from Cheers mate, just F Off". Pub Landlord for the win.