DVLA reject Registration! Help
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oldmanbm

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466 posts

225 months

Thursday 20th November
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I bought a beautiful 1969 VW Beetle 1500 that was imported from South Africa. The car is like new with a genuine 17000 miles (I checked back in SA). I have the import taxes paid (VOSA), I got it insured on its chassis number, got a certificate of manaufacturer from VW and filled out a mountain of paperwork. Sent all off to Swansea DVLA and waited. And waited. Finally yesterday everything was sent back to me because the VW certificate states that the car arrived in South Africa as CKD (Completely Knocked Down) to be built there. DVLA now argue that they don't have evidence of when the car was actually built up in South Africa and they have offered to register it as a 'Q" plate!! Can anyone who has gone through this debilitating process any guidance of my next moves? Thanks

Edited by oldmanbm on Thursday 20th November 21:51

Pit Pony

10,511 posts

141 months

Thursday 20th November
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Well, at least they will allow it to be registered. The Q reg will be a great part of its back story.

MysteryCar

36 posts

17 months

Thursday 20th November
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You need Kev Rooney. If anyone knows a solution it will be him. Might still be around on Rods'N'Sods forum?

Turbobanana

7,585 posts

221 months

Thursday 20th November
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Is a Q plate so bad? Or are you in it for a quick flip?

vpr

3,888 posts

258 months

Thursday 20th November
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Turbobanana said:
Is a Q plate so bad? Or are you in it for a quick flip?
It’s akin to herpes, you’ll never get rid of it and nobody wants it

Pit Pony

10,511 posts

141 months

Friday 21st November
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Turbobanana said:
Is a Q plate so bad? Or are you in it for a quick flip?
Brilliant.

markymarkthree

3,167 posts

191 months

Friday 21st November
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Join a VW Beetle club that has a DVLA rep, they will get this mess sorted.

smokey mow

1,303 posts

220 months

Friday 21st November
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markymarkthree said:
Join a VW Beetle club that has a DVLA rep, they will get this mess sorted.
Agreed, I would have thought that a dating certificate from the club would fix the issue.

V12 Migaloo

1,035 posts

166 months

Friday 21st November
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If you have a Q plated car, can you then not fit a private, ageless reg??

steveo3002

10,974 posts

194 months

Friday 21st November
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V12 Migaloo said:
If you have a Q plated car, can you then not fit a private, ageless reg??
no and no free road tax

V12 Migaloo

1,035 posts

166 months

Friday 21st November
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steveo3002 said:
no and no free road tax
bummer

catso

15,524 posts

287 months

Friday 21st November
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steveo3002 said:
V12 Migaloo said:
If you have a Q plated car, can you then not fit a private, ageless reg??
no and no free road tax
Actually a Q plate is 'ageless' but, generally not something many want, especially if a valuable vehicle.

I once had a motorbike with a Q plate, never gave it any thought at the time (1980s) but it was a cheap, registered for the road/motocross bike so not really a problem anyway.

oldmanbm

Original Poster:

466 posts

225 months

Friday 21st November
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Absolutely going to keep it as I bought it for myself as a retirement present. No way am I going to accept a Q plate on a car with a VW Germanay Certificate of Manufacture in 1969. If it was on a Q could have been something I cobbled together in 2025! Some great advice so far and I have a few email addresses for South Africa VW heritage so will see where that leads.

Red9zero

9,880 posts

77 months

Friday 21st November
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Looks like it's not quite as active as it was, but some very knowledgeable people on here:

https://www.volkszone.com/


InitialDave

14,102 posts

139 months

Friday 21st November
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Turbobanana said:
Is a Q plate so bad? Or are you in it for a quick flip?
Yes, Q plates are that bad.

I wouldn't want one if I could avoid it.

Hope you get it sorted OP.

Any info on what they will accept as supporting evidence it was built there?

Also... if they agree it was a CKD kit but are claiming you might have built it up yourself just now... surely it should get a 75 reg?

FlyVintage

256 posts

11 months

Friday 21st November
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Did your SA registration document state the date of first registration? If so, you have provided too much information! You should reapply and on the V55/5 you should provide the date of first registration (per SA title) and use the same year for the year of manufacture. For all the classics I have imported, there has never been an issue with not providing manufacturer proof of manufacture date (indeed many such records don’t exist). Why did you feel the need to provide that?

I think you may have shot yourself in the foot by being too helpful.

catso

15,524 posts

287 months

Friday 21st November
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FlyVintage said:
For all the classics I have imported, there has never been an issue with not providing manufacturer proof of manufacture date (indeed many such records don t exist).
I have only imported one vehicle, for which I supplied DVLA with the original registration document which, like our V5, has only the date of first registration in that country and no mention of date of manufacture.

The DVLA accepted that and issued me a V5 with the same date of first registration and an age-appropriate number plate.

I was actually impressed with how smoothly and quickly it was processed.


Edited by catso on Friday 21st November 13:47

FlyVintage

256 posts

11 months

Friday 21st November
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catso said:
FlyVintage said:
For all the classics I have imported, there has never been an issue with not providing manufacturer proof of manufacture date (indeed many such records don t exist).
I have only imported one vehicle, for which I supplied DVLA with the original registration document which, like our V5, has only the date of first registration in that country and no mention of date of manufacture.

The DVLA accepted that and issued me a V5 with the same date of first registration and an age-appropriate number plate.

I was actually impressed with how smoothly and quickly it was processed.


Edited by catso on Friday 21st November 13:47
Indeed, to my knowledge, that has always been the case.

coetzeeh

2,864 posts

256 months

Friday 21st November
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Does the SA registration certificate state “built up” in the licensing category?

MCSV8

924 posts

283 months

Friday 21st November
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Buy a suitable wreck and "rebody" it.