Help! BFe , moxie or grim ripper!

[Zephyr Speedshop]

need some help choosing a new frame.

I fancy seeing what all the fuss is about steel frames and want some a little more capable than my scandal. but still able to do bigger days not just laps of the country park .

I've settled on these 3 frames there all pretty reasonable price and seem to be really well regarded. and tough enough to do uplift days

plan to swap, the bits over from my On on scandal. so 140mm forks, and 29er wheels.

can any of you guys give me some honest feed back on any of these frames

Cotic Bfe

Pipedream Moxie mx3

Radical bike co Grimm ripper


geometry comparison.



or maybe toy think i should stick with the scandal nothing wrong with it i just fancy trying steel and something a little more capable



thanks Andy

[numtumfutunch]

Cotic is somewhat divisive

He rode a wave of positive online energy with the original Soul as did a bike shop in the Peak district neither of whom really deserved the adulation in my opinion

Dont mention the fact that he's an "engineer" and ridiculous online rants about disc brake mounts which eventually capitulated into an acceptance that he was wrong although he never really publicly said so

And same for gravel bikes and integrated cables and similar for ebikes. Its great to be a maverick brand however if you lose your credibility you run the risk of alienating your customer base.

COI: I have a Mk2 26" Soul which was/is a whole lot of fun however the industry has moved on massively. Cotic gravel bikes are basic at best and for less cash my new gravel ride has a carbon frame and integrated cables with Di2 both of which he slags off on his IG channel and coincidentally or otherwise he cannot offer on his own frames. MTBs are equally inelegant compared to 'supermarket' brands

Cheers

[vxsmithers]

I have a Moxie, I like it, although it is quite aggressive but very stable so depends what you want it to do.

I'm 5'11 and have the long, probably should have got the longer size but a longer stem would sort that as I'm running the pacenti zero stem

Also, the customer service has been shockingly poor since it got taken over earlier this year so that is something to be careful of. Frames are really good, but there have been a lot of delays for the S6 so I assume its the same for the Moxie frames, and zero updates on orders, or failed delivery deadlines from what I read on the FB Pipedream group

[vxsmithers]

My moxie