Car failed MOT second opinion at another garage
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What did it fail on?
An MOT should be a fairly uniform test to the same standards but testers are human and thus ond may be very strict and fail whereas another may pass and advise.
You can appeal the decision but really, why not just address whatever was picked up as the fail and then be happy in the knowledge it's fixed? Unless there was absolutely nothing wrong and it's been failed fraudulently or indeed, could be a genuine error.
An MOT should be a fairly uniform test to the same standards but testers are human and thus ond may be very strict and fail whereas another may pass and advise.
You can appeal the decision but really, why not just address whatever was picked up as the fail and then be happy in the knowledge it's fixed? Unless there was absolutely nothing wrong and it's been failed fraudulently or indeed, could be a genuine error.
Matt11 said:
It failed on corrosion
Corrosion won't get any better. Only worse. A pass and advised today is a potential fail in a matter of weeks so perhaps the tester knows that by next test, it'd be a potential death trap so opted to err on the side of caution. You could go get a second opinion however if it's been failed on record, a second tester would be quite brave to pass it right after.
Davie said:
Corrosion won't get any better. Only worse. A pass and advised today is a potential fail in a matter of weeks so perhaps the tester knows that by next test, it'd be a potential death trap so opted to err on the side of caution.
You could go get a second opinion however if it's been failed on record, a second tester would be quite brave to pass it right after.
Yes I understand, may just leave it. It passed last year with no advisories thoughYou could go get a second opinion however if it's been failed on record, a second tester would be quite brave to pass it right after.
Yep. One garage failed my car on an exhaust leak and handbrake inefficiency.
Did some hard stops to get the brakes biting a bit better, then took it to a different garage for another mot test. They passed it. Didn't even put the exhaust as an advisory. Guess where I'll be going for future mots!
So yeah, you can get a second opinion, you might get a different outcome.
Did some hard stops to get the brakes biting a bit better, then took it to a different garage for another mot test. They passed it. Didn't even put the exhaust as an advisory. Guess where I'll be going for future mots!
So yeah, you can get a second opinion, you might get a different outcome.
Matt11 said:
Has anyone had it were their car has failed an MOT and they have taken it to another garage for a second opinion, and they have tested it and passed it?
Yes. I bought a nearly new car years ago and the garage included a "free" first MOT. The car failed on a list of things, so I took it to my local trusted mechanic and it passed with no advisories. Matt11 said:
On corrosion? They have but it down as corrioson on near enough everything by the looks of it. But last year nothing
A year is a long time in the UK weather climate with constant cycles between wet and dry and then half of the year when every surface is covered in salt vs. most cars within the last 20 years having zero underbody protection on the metal bits.If a metal bit has lost its strength within a prescribed area then simplisticly it's a fail. Some light surface corrosion would get a pass or an advisory, but as a general rule anything that sounds dull on the hammer or I can put my finger through is shot and the metal is gone = no strength to support any of the bits attached to it within 30cm of the prescribed area = excessive corrosion = fail.
You can try your luck and another £50 for a test elsewhere, but I think it would be a waste of your money. I don't suppose you've recently waxoyl'd or dinitrol'd the underside have you?
Tisy said:
A year is a long time in the UK weather climate with constant cycles between wet and dry and then half of the year when every surface is covered in salt vs. most cars within the last 20 years having zero underbody protection on the metal bits.
If a metal bit has lost its strength within a prescribed area then simplisticly it's a fail. Some light surface corrosion would get a pass or an advisory, but as a general rule anything that sounds dull on the hammer or I can put my finger through is shot and the metal is gone = no strength to support any of the bits attached to it within 30cm of the prescribed area = excessive corrosion = fail.
You can try your luck and another £50 for a test elsewhere, but I think it would be a waste of your money. I don't suppose you've recently waxoyl'd or dinitrol'd the underside have you?
I have dinitrol'd it yes. I do every yearIf a metal bit has lost its strength within a prescribed area then simplisticly it's a fail. Some light surface corrosion would get a pass or an advisory, but as a general rule anything that sounds dull on the hammer or I can put my finger through is shot and the metal is gone = no strength to support any of the bits attached to it within 30cm of the prescribed area = excessive corrosion = fail.
You can try your luck and another £50 for a test elsewhere, but I think it would be a waste of your money. I don't suppose you've recently waxoyl'd or dinitrol'd the underside have you?
Matt11 said:
I have dinitrol'd it yes. I do every year
I knew it ! 
Well clearly it's not been done every year since the metal was good, or if it has then it hasn't been done very well otherwise it wouldn't have failed spectactularly for corrosion.Personally, the sight of waxoyl or dinitrol or any of the other oily gloop rust treatments are like a red rag to a bull for me. I've not come across a car yet which hasn't been rotten as a pear behind it all and take it quite personally that car owners try to insult my intelligence in thinking they can plaster the underside in this gloop to hide all the rust and make it look well-protected and that'll fool the dumb MOT tester to not look closely at it and just pass it
. What actually happens is that every gloop covered piece of metal receives the full attention of my hammer and thumbs and by the time I've finished there are usually gaping rust holes big enough to get your fist in and a fail sheet 3 pages long.MOTs are a lottery IMHO.
2024 my car got an advisory for "(rear axle corroded)" whatever that means on a car with IRS, although I know the rear subframe can suffer from corrosion - but why not give a proper description unless that is beyond the competency of the tester?
2025 test somewhere else and no mention of corrosion.
I'll just go anywhere that will give me another year given how random results are!
2024 my car got an advisory for "(rear axle corroded)" whatever that means on a car with IRS, although I know the rear subframe can suffer from corrosion - but why not give a proper description unless that is beyond the competency of the tester?
2025 test somewhere else and no mention of corrosion.
I'll just go anywhere that will give me another year given how random results are!
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