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What do you mean by "bluetooth" or "wireless" speakers? If they are wireless, what is the point of the amp - what are you going to connect it to?
Do you want to use a phone or similar as a source, instead of a head unit and connect it via Bluetooth (or other wireless medium) to an amplifier, to power the speakers in the car?
If so, then yes, it's entirely possible. However, it's WAY easier (and better) to simply replace the head unit with one that has that functionality.
Do you want to use a phone or similar as a source, instead of a head unit and connect it via Bluetooth (or other wireless medium) to an amplifier, to power the speakers in the car?
If so, then yes, it's entirely possible. However, it's WAY easier (and better) to simply replace the head unit with one that has that functionality.
What do I mean?? Exactly what I wrote, my friend, let me explain.
I haven't done anything with in car hifi since 1988 when I fitted a Nakamichi head unit to my E30, so time a lot of time has passed, my knowledge isn't all that (do Goodman's still make s
te speakers!) and that's why I'm here.
I want to keep the period look of the Clarion, I have looked at the Blaupunkt and pioneer retros, but they are not the right look, same for the retro sound GP, they all look great in German cars, not so in a 80's Jag. Kramer automotive do a great head unit, that Porsche and Jaguar brand for their classic divisions, but that's over a grand (and they are all out of stock and unlikely to be replenished), so with have to stick with the OEM unit.
And as the clarion has a large chassis, the cables behind are all compressed and there's not much room to work and as I am finding out the lack of room is causing breakdown in connectivity between head unit and speakers, you just cant install the extra 8 inches or so of cable neatly when sliding in the unit.
So, I was thinking why not have wireless speakers just working remotely off my phone...? A simple enough and perfectly reasonable question? I would assume that the sound quality would only ever be enhance if the speakers were fitted to a small 4/6 channel amp. Don't need anything earth shattering, just decent sound quality that is better then the head unit can't provide.
Don't know how that would work, if the signal goes to the amp and then gets distributed to the speakers, or the signal goes directly to each speaker. hence why I'm here, lets see who knows there stuff and who just pi***es in the wind.
I haven't done anything with in car hifi since 1988 when I fitted a Nakamichi head unit to my E30, so time a lot of time has passed, my knowledge isn't all that (do Goodman's still make s
te speakers!) and that's why I'm here.I want to keep the period look of the Clarion, I have looked at the Blaupunkt and pioneer retros, but they are not the right look, same for the retro sound GP, they all look great in German cars, not so in a 80's Jag. Kramer automotive do a great head unit, that Porsche and Jaguar brand for their classic divisions, but that's over a grand (and they are all out of stock and unlikely to be replenished), so with have to stick with the OEM unit.
And as the clarion has a large chassis, the cables behind are all compressed and there's not much room to work and as I am finding out the lack of room is causing breakdown in connectivity between head unit and speakers, you just cant install the extra 8 inches or so of cable neatly when sliding in the unit.
So, I was thinking why not have wireless speakers just working remotely off my phone...? A simple enough and perfectly reasonable question? I would assume that the sound quality would only ever be enhance if the speakers were fitted to a small 4/6 channel amp. Don't need anything earth shattering, just decent sound quality that is better then the head unit can't provide.
Don't know how that would work, if the signal goes to the amp and then gets distributed to the speakers, or the signal goes directly to each speaker. hence why I'm here, lets see who knows there stuff and who just pi***es in the wind.
There is no such thing as a "wireless car speaker".
Car speakers need to be hardwired to an amplifier - either one inside the head unit or a separate one.
If you don't want to use (or replace) the head-unit, then you will need to install a separate amplifier, with dedicate power to the battery, a ground, some method of switching it on and then wires from the amp to all the speakers.
Then you need some way of connecting your phone to the amp. Either with a Bluetooth receiver such as: https://caraudiosecurity.com/amplifiers-eq/amplifi... this will again need a power/ground/remote and then connections to the amp.
Or an all-in-one Bluetooth amp such as: https://www.classiccarstereo.co.uk/shop/classic-ca...
Replacing the head-unit with a modern one (and even using a dedicated amp) is a vastly superior option IMHO. If you get a mechless (without CD player) HU, the chassis depth is half that of a standard HU, so no issue with wires behind it (and if you use a separate amp, even less wires). It will sound a lot better and offer a huge amount more functionality (like being able to actually tune the sound to the car) than playing from a phone ever could.
Car speakers need to be hardwired to an amplifier - either one inside the head unit or a separate one.
If you don't want to use (or replace) the head-unit, then you will need to install a separate amplifier, with dedicate power to the battery, a ground, some method of switching it on and then wires from the amp to all the speakers.
Then you need some way of connecting your phone to the amp. Either with a Bluetooth receiver such as: https://caraudiosecurity.com/amplifiers-eq/amplifi... this will again need a power/ground/remote and then connections to the amp.
Or an all-in-one Bluetooth amp such as: https://www.classiccarstereo.co.uk/shop/classic-ca...
Replacing the head-unit with a modern one (and even using a dedicated amp) is a vastly superior option IMHO. If you get a mechless (without CD player) HU, the chassis depth is half that of a standard HU, so no issue with wires behind it (and if you use a separate amp, even less wires). It will sound a lot better and offer a huge amount more functionality (like being able to actually tune the sound to the car) than playing from a phone ever could.
V12 Migaloo said:
What do I mean?? Exactly what I wrote, my friend, let me explain.
I haven't done anything with in car hifi since 1988 when I fitted a Nakamichi head unit to my E30, so time a lot of time has passed, my knowledge isn't all that (do Goodman's still make ste speakers!) and that's why I'm here.
I want to keep the period look of the Clarion, I have looked at the Blaupunkt and pioneer retros, but they are not the right look, same for the retro sound GP, they all look great in German cars, not so in a 80's Jag. Kramer automotive do a great head unit, that Porsche and Jaguar brand for their classic divisions, but that's over a grand (and they are all out of stock and unlikely to be replenished), so with have to stick with the OEM unit.
And as the clarion has a large chassis, the cables behind are all compressed and there's not much room to work and as I am finding out the lack of room is causing breakdown in connectivity between head unit and speakers, you just cant install the extra 8 inches or so of cable neatly when sliding in the unit.
So, I was thinking why not have wireless speakers just working remotely off my phone...? A simple enough and perfectly reasonable question? I would assume that the sound quality would only ever be enhance if the speakers were fitted to a small 4/6 channel amp. Don't need anything earth shattering, just decent sound quality that is better then the head unit can't provide.
Don't know how that would work, if the signal goes to the amp and then gets distributed to the speakers, or the signal goes directly to each speaker. hence why I'm here, lets see who knows there stuff and who just pi***es in the wind.
Bit of a condescending response to some perfectly valid questions. You're asking for something that doesn't exist, like me putting up a post asking for a Bluetooth shower with no plumbing...I haven't done anything with in car hifi since 1988 when I fitted a Nakamichi head unit to my E30, so time a lot of time has passed, my knowledge isn't all that (do Goodman's still make s
te speakers!) and that's why I'm here.I want to keep the period look of the Clarion, I have looked at the Blaupunkt and pioneer retros, but they are not the right look, same for the retro sound GP, they all look great in German cars, not so in a 80's Jag. Kramer automotive do a great head unit, that Porsche and Jaguar brand for their classic divisions, but that's over a grand (and they are all out of stock and unlikely to be replenished), so with have to stick with the OEM unit.
And as the clarion has a large chassis, the cables behind are all compressed and there's not much room to work and as I am finding out the lack of room is causing breakdown in connectivity between head unit and speakers, you just cant install the extra 8 inches or so of cable neatly when sliding in the unit.
So, I was thinking why not have wireless speakers just working remotely off my phone...? A simple enough and perfectly reasonable question? I would assume that the sound quality would only ever be enhance if the speakers were fitted to a small 4/6 channel amp. Don't need anything earth shattering, just decent sound quality that is better then the head unit can't provide.
Don't know how that would work, if the signal goes to the amp and then gets distributed to the speakers, or the signal goes directly to each speaker. hence why I'm here, lets see who knows there stuff and who just pi***es in the wind.
Anyway, it's one of these in the back seat or take the very good advice of the poster above:
https://uk.jbl.com/JBLPARTYBOX310UK.html?utm_sourc...
It's very easy to swap stuff over and then back again if you want.
Not being condescending at all, just explaining my request as I really don't know what's possible... I have now been enlightened, seems as if the best route is to go through a new head unit, although I would rather not... I just always wondered how you can have Bluetooth speakers in the house, and in a boat, but just not in a car...??
The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Tuesday 11th November 13:31
Vibe make a small 4 channel amp that plugs in line with the factory radio harness, and has Bluetooth connectivity...would that be a possible option?
there are a couple of different manufacturers of amplifiers with Bluetooth built in to the amp, but the amps themselves aren't particularly small footprints
there are a couple of different manufacturers of amplifiers with Bluetooth built in to the amp, but the amps themselves aren't particularly small footprints
V12 Migaloo said:
Not being condescending at all, just explaining my request as I really don't know what's possible... I have now been enlightened, seems as if the best route is to go through a new head unit, although I would rather not... I just always wondered how you can have Bluetooth speakers in the house, and in a boat, but just not in a car...??
The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
Bluetooth speakers work at home by having a bluetooth receiver built-in AND and an amplifier. So you don't need a physical connection from the source (eg phone) to send the signal to the amplifier/speaker. However, the speakers are still "wired" as you have to provide power to the amplifier (and the Bluetooth receiver) via the mains. Unless they are battery powered. There is no practical way to add a bluetooth receiver and an amp to a speaker, that you could mount in a car, that would have any benefit over a separate amp/source and traditionally wired.The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Tuesday 11th November 13:31
You could keep your head unit and connect your phone to it with a lead via the tape deck or use an FM receiver to do it wirelessly (and a separate amp is you want). It would give you the functionality to play via your phone but the sound quality will still be compromised by the HU.
Edited by TEKNOPUG on Tuesday 11th November 16:30
V12 Migaloo said:
Not being condescending at all, just explaining my request as I really don't know what's possible... I have now been enlightened, seems as if the best route is to go through a new head unit, although I would rather not... I just always wondered how you can have Bluetooth speakers in the house, and in a boat, but just not in a car...??
The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
Fair enough, did read as a bit sharp though it's all good The an all-in-one Bluetooth amp I will investigate
The JBL party box is currently in the back seat!
Thank you everyone for your kind replies
Edited by V12 Migaloo on Tuesday 11th November 13:31
It's a bit confusing because your head unit actually contain an amp already, hence how it drives speakers directly. The Bluetooth receiver is a separate little gizmo often now built into a head unit, but you can also buy it separately.
The speakers in a car are generally just "dumb". They need power and a signal from something. Be that tour head unit or through an amp.
Good to hear the party box wasn't a totally silly suggestion!
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