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butchstewie

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61,456 posts

229 months

Glassman

24,036 posts

234 months

Yesterday (16:37)
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A jury at Liverpool Crown Court found Barton, 43, had "crossed the line between free speech and a crime" with six posts he made on Twitter.

Looking for what he said further to what is in the second paragraph of the link above.

768

18,117 posts

115 months

Yesterday (16:38)
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So calling someone a bike nonce, is now a crime? hehe

Must be time to let some more people slip out the back door of the prisons.

Mannginger

9,950 posts

276 months

Yesterday (17:11)
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I'm hoping the main issue is the fact that he posted Vine's address on Twitter, otherwise this is well over the top.

Edit: I should make it clear that I think Barton is a total , with multiple charges for assault etc he is not one of life's good people

Edited by Mannginger on Friday 7th November 18:38

brake fader

2,388 posts

54 months

Yesterday (17:14)
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So he was cleared of six so called offences , rather misleading headline again by the BBC

brake fader

2,388 posts

54 months

Yesterday (17:16)
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Vine will always be known as bike nonce biglaugh

butchstewie

Original Poster:

61,456 posts

229 months

Yesterday (17:16)
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brake fader said:
So he was cleared of six so called offences , rather misleading headline again by the BBC
Not really.

If you're on trial for killing two people and get found guilty of killing one the headlines are always going to be that you're a murderer.

S600BSB

6,898 posts

125 months

Yesterday (17:18)
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Never heard of him.

brake fader

2,388 posts

54 months

Yesterday (17:20)
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butchstewie said:
brake fader said:
So he was cleared of six so called offences , rather misleading headline again by the BBC
Not really.

If you're on trial for killing two people and get found guilty of killing one the headlines are always going to be that you're a murderer.
Being found guilty of saying said person is in a job due to box ticking is very different to murder, although the sentence given may be similar.

MrBogSmith

3,956 posts

53 months

Yesterday (17:20)
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brake fader said:
So he was cleared of six so called offences , rather misleading headline again by the BBC
It's factually correct.

A headline isn't meant to encompass everything.

By that measure pretty much everyone is 'misleading'.



brake fader said:
Being found guilty of saying said person is in a job due to box ticking is very different to murder, although the sentence given may be similar.
How is that relevant to headline writing?


butchstewie

Original Poster:

61,456 posts

229 months

Yesterday (17:22)
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brake fader said:
Being found guilty of saying said person is in a job due to box ticking is very different to murder, although the sentence given may be similar.
Of course it's different but you're not going to see a headline of "Barton cleared of half the stuff he was charged with".

MrBogSmith

3,956 posts

53 months

Yesterday (17:27)
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Vine has done the double on him.

Won his defamation suit and the criminal case.

Interesting semi-link that SkyNews concluded that X has a large right-wing bias: https://news.sky.com/story/how-sky-news-investigat...


Vanden Saab

16,749 posts

93 months

Yesterday (17:31)
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Any guesses what his punishment will be?
Maximum is 6 months jail and/or £5000 fine.

Gareth79

8,555 posts

265 months

Yesterday (17:37)
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768 said:
So calling someone a bike nonce, is now a crime? hehe
He posted a LOT more than just that.

MrBogSmith

3,956 posts

53 months

Yesterday (17:43)
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Vanden Saab said:
Any guesses what his punishment will be?
Maximum is 6 months jail and/or £5000 fine.
IANAL.

I think the max is 12 month now.

They're summary only offences in crown court. Googling it suggests the DPP can apply for a voluntary bill of indictment. Not something I'd heard of before.

Not a good year for him after being convicted of domestic assault. I hope he's not a 'save the girls' type.


119

14,983 posts

55 months

Yesterday (17:51)
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768 said:
So calling someone a bike nonce, is now a crime? hehe

Must be time to let some more people slip out the back door of the prisons.
hehe

brake fader

2,388 posts

54 months

Yesterday (18:08)
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If he gets jail for this he may as well just have punched vine in the face the sentence would be the same. Surely a fine would benefit the state more than costing the tax payer to lock him up.

butchstewie

Original Poster:

61,456 posts

229 months

Yesterday (18:09)
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Vanden Saab said:
Any guesses what his punishment will be?
Maximum is 6 months jail and/or £5000 fine.
There are times when I wish a sentence could be "forced to give a stload of money to a domestic violence charity" or something.

Vanden Saab

16,749 posts

93 months

Yesterday (18:16)
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butchstewie said:
Vanden Saab said:
Any guesses what his punishment will be?
Maximum is 6 months jail and/or £5000 fine.
There are times when I wish a sentence could be "forced to give a stload of money to a domestic violence charity" or something.
Agreed, but more to the point how does he have 2.7 million followers on X.

Jasandjules

71,530 posts

248 months

Yesterday (18:32)
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brake fader said:
If he gets jail for this he may as well just have punched vine in the face the sentence would be the same. Surely a fine would benefit the state more than costing the tax payer to lock him up.
Given the way things have been lately I am not sure he would have a lesser punishment for punching Vine in the face than posting hurty words on the internet.