Intelligent Octopus Go - The Basics
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Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.
Here is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devices and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Here is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devices and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Edited by s-x-i on Monday 3rd November 15:25
s-x-i said:
Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.
Here is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Yes your setup seems correct. IOG takes over charger.Here is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
I just setup IOG on Saturday and used it for the first time.
My understanding is that once you schedule on the Octopus app for say 100% by 10am the next day, as soon as you plug in it works out the schedule. You can see the time slots in the app. They are dynamic and do change. Whilst plugged in and when its charging the whole house is charged at 7p/kwh and you also have 11.30pm to 5.30am at 7p too.
I have solar pv and 20kw of batteries so charge up between 11.30pm and 5.30am most nights and can export out at 15p.
Hope this helps.
Correct set up. Let octopus control your charger and don't add schedules anywhere else. Just confuses the system.
Any charging slots that octopus give you are at the cheaper rate. It's quite often before 11:30 too.
(Sunny, windy Sunday afternoons for example you may find day time charging happens)
You should change the % you require via the octopus app to match your need, if you only need a little top up in theory you shouldn't ask for 100%.
Personally I have found that doesn't make too much difference to when you get a charging slot but others seem to think it does.
Any charging slots that octopus give you are at the cheaper rate. It's quite often before 11:30 too.
(Sunny, windy Sunday afternoons for example you may find day time charging happens)
You should change the % you require via the octopus app to match your need, if you only need a little top up in theory you shouldn't ask for 100%.
Personally I have found that doesn't make too much difference to when you get a charging slot but others seem to think it does.
Seems ok, i presume as you’ve connected the charger to IOG the car doesn’t start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it’s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.
Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they’ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you’ve a phev the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you’re likely to want it all every day.
Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they’ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you’ve a phev the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you’re likely to want it all every day.
s-x-i said:
Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.
Here is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Octopus have a comprehensive FAQ for Intelligent GoHere is how I currently have everything set-up.
Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.
Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?
Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
https://octopus.energy/blog/intelligent-go-faqs/
All seems to be working so far on the above way that I have set it up. Only been one hic-up when the car never charged the other night so will keep an eye on it.
On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.
Gone fishing said:
Seems ok, i presume as you've connected the charger to IOG the car doesn't start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.
Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
I have the charger set-up through IOG as my car is not listed, so no issue with the car starting to charge when initially plugged in.Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.
s-x-i said:
All seems to be working so far on the above way that I have set it up. Only been one hic-up when the car never charged the other night so will keep an eye on it.
On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.
Ther API which I use in Home Automation also used to show the current charge rate which was useful as a cross check it was cheap at the time, (and also potentially for triggering other consumption) but they've changed it to only show the default rates so it doesn't reflect the additional cheap rate slots. It's a shame as I had a script at one point to stop the car if the rate was peak but sadly thats now pointless. Gone fishing said:
Seems ok, i presume as you've connected the charger to IOG the car doesn't start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.
Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
I have the charger set-up through IOG as my car is not listed, so no issue with the car starting to charge when initially plugged in.Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.
As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.
The bottlecapdave plugin for home assistant has current rate etc:
https://github.com/BottlecapDave/HomeAssistant-Oct...
it has a few variables to use.
current rate
off peak electricity
intelligent dispatching
intelligent state
https://github.com/BottlecapDave/HomeAssistant-Oct...
it has a few variables to use.
current rate
off peak electricity
intelligent dispatching
intelligent state
I've been away with Tomato for the last year, but it looks like that is about to come to an end.
I was with Octopus prior, on Agile but I think I might go for Intelligent when I return as I was sick of keeping track of all the price changes with Agile to ensure I was getting a good rate.
I think my car and charger are both compatible with the service, but I can't get my head around the scheduling aspect. Why not just use the cheap overnight slots as I'm doing with Tomato and I was with Go a few years ago? Is the only advantage with scheduling a charge that it may take place during the day and I can benefit from running other things at the lower rate?
I was with Octopus prior, on Agile but I think I might go for Intelligent when I return as I was sick of keeping track of all the price changes with Agile to ensure I was getting a good rate.
I think my car and charger are both compatible with the service, but I can't get my head around the scheduling aspect. Why not just use the cheap overnight slots as I'm doing with Tomato and I was with Go a few years ago? Is the only advantage with scheduling a charge that it may take place during the day and I can benefit from running other things at the lower rate?
Pretty much. ive only been on a couple weeks but it seems to schedule its own charges whenever it wants but will always charge from 11:30 regardless.
Ever since joining mines has always been target charge percentage rather than how much to add. but I have mines liked directly to the tesla rather than a charger.
seen a few posts about people claiming to have testy emails about "abusing" the system to try get as many dynamic charging slots outside of 11:30 - 5:30
I am using the tesla granny charger and finding its realistically all i need for milage usage. for safety side i limit it to 7/8amps instead of 10 amps. wondering if i might expect the same email at some time although i wouldnt say i get excessive charging slots outside of the overnight window.
Ever since joining mines has always been target charge percentage rather than how much to add. but I have mines liked directly to the tesla rather than a charger.
seen a few posts about people claiming to have testy emails about "abusing" the system to try get as many dynamic charging slots outside of 11:30 - 5:30
I am using the tesla granny charger and finding its realistically all i need for milage usage. for safety side i limit it to 7/8amps instead of 10 amps. wondering if i might expect the same email at some time although i wouldnt say i get excessive charging slots outside of the overnight window.
My understanding of IOG is that whenever it decides to charge the car, even if outside the 11.30-5.30 time frame, then you get all of your household electricity at the off peak price. But my experience so far is that the time slots it allocates can keep changing and sometimes it will change very close to the time of the initial first time slot, (The Octopus app does mention this can happen). So if you decide to say put the washing machine on to take advantage of what you think is going to be cheap electricity, you should do a final check on the schedule just before switching it on otherwise it could end up more expensive than you expected.
Silverage said:
All sounds good. I've just applied to move.
We were also with Tomato having switched to them after being on Agile because Agile prices were getting ridiculous and Octopus’s standing charge was too high. Tomato’s tariff was great because there was also some cheaper electricity early morning which was great for washing machine quick washes. Obviously it didn’t last so we’ve reluctantly gone back to Octopus.
IOG is slightly cheaper than standard Go and you get six hours instead of five hours off peak. If IOG decides to charge the car outside those six hours then it’s still off peak as is the electricity for the rest of your house but see my post above on a possible gotcha on that.
Set up for me was clunky. We have a Renault Scenic eTech and Octopus connects to the car via Renault’s Mobilize app which insisted on doing a couple of so-called ‘calibration’ charges during peak time.
I switched to IOG last night after they started getting readings from my smart meter.
I've been the last 90 minutes trying to get Octopus to talk to my Wallbox Pulsar Plus using some black magic called OCPP and I'm ready to throw the towel in. No matter what I do it's just not having it and I've seen enough reboots now to last me a lifetime.
I'm just about to give them a call and I think it will be back to Agile for me so I can control it myself.
I've been the last 90 minutes trying to get Octopus to talk to my Wallbox Pulsar Plus using some black magic called OCPP and I'm ready to throw the towel in. No matter what I do it's just not having it and I've seen enough reboots now to last me a lifetime.
I'm just about to give them a call and I think it will be back to Agile for me so I can control it myself.
Silverage said:
I've been away with Tomato for the last year, but it looks like that is about to come to an end.
I was with Octopus prior, on Agile but I think I might go for Intelligent when I return as I was sick of keeping track of all the price changes with Agile to ensure I was getting a good rate.
I think my car and charger are both compatible with the service, but I can't get my head around the scheduling aspect. Why not just use the cheap overnight slots as I'm doing with Tomato and I was with Go a few years ago? Is the only advantage with scheduling a charge that it may take place during the day and I can benefit from running other things at the lower rate?
Also depending on how much you actually do need to charge up, there's the fixed Octopus tariff at £30 a month. Just need to pick a ready by time and Octopus does the rest. This might be a good deal for the OP if they do a lot of charging or don't mind paying a bit more to have no faffing with scheduling. I was with Octopus prior, on Agile but I think I might go for Intelligent when I return as I was sick of keeping track of all the price changes with Agile to ensure I was getting a good rate.
I think my car and charger are both compatible with the service, but I can't get my head around the scheduling aspect. Why not just use the cheap overnight slots as I'm doing with Tomato and I was with Go a few years ago? Is the only advantage with scheduling a charge that it may take place during the day and I can benefit from running other things at the lower rate?
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