Supercar to sports car?
Supercar to sports car?
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Frankychops

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1,673 posts

27 months

I’ve a lovely 650s, however I fancy a change, which I think is going to be to a 718 spyder RS. I think I’ll miss a little of the ‘sense of occasion’, has anyone else gone super car to sports car? The only reason for change is to try another car for 18 months or so, while I can.

My other worry is the McLaren 650’s are going up in value, 718 RS’s are coming down!

bennno

14,566 posts

287 months

We ve a 296 and just added a standard 718 Spyder. Went for the standard Spyder as wanted manual - really impressed with it, great fun.

There s an oddity with Porsche warranty, same price for any Boxster from a 2.0 to a RS - it’s £1600 ish for 3 years bargain on RS etc


Panamax

7,111 posts

52 months

If you're looking for a user-friendly convertible experience it's worth checking out the standard 6-pot cars with a roof that goes up and down on its own.

bennno

14,566 posts

287 months

Yesterday (06:31)
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Panamax said:
If you're looking for a user-friendly convertible experience it's worth checking out the standard 6-pot cars with a roof that goes up and down on its own.
The Spyder roof literally takes 10 seconds - it’s way easier than something like a tvr chimera or Griffith. Not sure if RS top more complicated.

Frankychops

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1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (06:56)
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Panamax said:
If you're looking for a user-friendly convertible experience it's worth checking out the standard 6-pot cars with a roof that goes up and down on its own.
I’m not looking for ease. Just a different experience

robj4

448 posts

175 months

Yesterday (08:08)
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How's your hearing? I'd miss the duality of the McLaren, quiet and comfortable or ballistic. Plus not sure you'd want to look back and pinch yourself every time you park a Cayman.

I loved my 981 GTS, not so much a boggo GT4, the Spyder RS is a different league of course, but I suspect to do any kind of touring the high revs in the cruise and noise would become tiresome.

The 9000rpm, way cheaper running costs and decent warranty would be nice change however.

Keep the 650 and go to the Silverstone porker experience and try one first maybe?

DeejRC

8,187 posts

100 months

Yesterday (08:16)
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When I sold the F12, I bought a shed slk280 to just mooch about in. They were such massive differences that comparing was never a thing, the shed was used to pile on some miles. I didn’t care about the “downgrade”.

Conversely when I bought the Macan Turbo it was done to get something “proper” again but with a nod to practicality and I, well, hate it!
In fact it annoys me so much I’m thinking of changing a lifelong prejudice and buying a Lambo for the first time to teach it a lesson!

Frankychops

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1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (08:32)
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robj4 said:
How's your hearing? I'd miss the duality of the McLaren, quiet and comfortable or ballistic. Plus not sure you'd want to look back and pinch yourself every time you park a Cayman.

I loved my 981 GTS, not so much a boggo GT4, the Spyder RS is a different league of course, but I suspect to do any kind of touring the high revs in the cruise and noise would become tiresome.

The 9000rpm, way cheaper running costs and decent warranty would be nice change however.

Keep the 650 and go to the Silverstone porker experience and try one first maybe?
I ve had motorbikes and caterham style cars, noise doesn t bother me and I see it as part of the overall experience. The McLaren has been cheap to run and totally reliable, so I d expect the same sort of costs. Just want a Change to something different, ideally with a bit of drama, noise and b road engagement

Edited by Frankychops on Tuesday 28th October 09:05

Panamax

7,111 posts

52 months

Yesterday (09:49)
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Frankychops said:
I'm not looking for ease. Just a different experience
How about a front-engine convertible? Portofino or F-type would probably me more "different" than moving from one mid-engine car to another.

Frankychops

Original Poster:

1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (10:35)
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Panamax said:
How about a front-engine convertible? Portofino or F-type would probably me more "different" than moving from one mid-engine car to another.
I'd like a car thats fun on UK roads, f-type has zero appeal as a JLR product, Portofino just doesn't really float my boat for some reason.

Freakuk

4,188 posts

169 months

Yesterday (10:40)
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Having bikes myself you understand the noise and viceral feel which non-bikers don't unfortunately.

I've also got a GT4RS and people always ALWAYS mention the noise, I came from a GT4 before the RS so an easy comparison, and I'd imagine the SRS would be similar albeit a fabric roof.

If you leave the exhaust closed, PDK in standard setting (basically as you start the car up) it's actually not much different in terms of volume over the GT4, cruising is barely any different, it's not a motorway car due to the lower gearing so does rev more, but would you really buy an SRS to sit on the M6?

If you hit the loud pedal it does what it says on the tin, open the exhaust and it becomes intoxicating frankly.

SRS will be better on the road that my RS for sure, it has the same spring rates and damper settings as my outgoing GT4 which I found amazing.

HTH

MDL111

8,214 posts

195 months

Yesterday (11:03)
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I think in your scenario I would switch to a manual n/a car as I think that would make such a substantial change to the driving experience that you would not miss the "sense of occasion" of the supercar for a while. In the long run I think the sense of occasion is something that can not be entirely compensated for forever. I still miss my Scuderia - I wanted to sell one car and sold the Scuderia instead of the RS as the RS has a manual and in retrospect I think it was the wrong choice, especially as I had another manual car in the garage, but not another supercar.
As a leftfield choice - something like a manual 360 might give you the best of both worlds and be a change from what you currently own.

Frankychops

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1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (11:33)
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MDL111 said:
I think in your scenario I would switch to a manual n/a car as I think that would make such a substantial change to the driving experience that you would not miss the "sense of occasion" of the supercar for a while. In the long run I think the sense of occasion is something that can not be entirely compensated for forever. I still miss my Scuderia - I wanted to sell one car and sold the Scuderia instead of the RS as the RS has a manual and in retrospect I think it was the wrong choice, especially as I had another manual car in the garage, but not another supercar.
As a leftfield choice - something like a manual 360 might give you the best of both worlds and be a change from what you currently own.
I’ve a ‘fast road’ spec 240z that should be finished in the next year or two, so as long as it’s an engaging drivetrain, I’m fairly open.

Frankychops

Original Poster:

1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (11:35)
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Freakuk said:
Having bikes myself you understand the noise and viceral feel which non-bikers don't unfortunately.

I've also got a GT4RS and people always ALWAYS mention the noise, I came from a GT4 before the RS so an easy comparison, and I'd imagine the SRS would be similar albeit a fabric roof.

If you leave the exhaust closed, PDK in standard setting (basically as you start the car up) it's actually not much different in terms of volume over the GT4, cruising is barely any different, it's not a motorway car due to the lower gearing so does rev more, but would you really buy an SRS to sit on the M6?

If you hit the loud pedal it does what it says on the tin, open the exhaust and it becomes intoxicating frankly.

SRS will be better on the road that my RS for sure, it has the same spring rates and damper settings as my outgoing GT4 which I found amazing.

HTH
Thank you. I’m not fussed if motorway slogs are 65 or 70, it’s the roads after that are important, the relative shorter gearing is what does appeal.

I want my head to rattle with noise and vibrations.

bennno

14,566 posts

287 months

Yesterday (12:40)
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Frankychops said:
I want my head to rattle with noise and vibrations.
Have you driven a 4.0 Vantage?

Frankychops

Original Poster:

1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (12:45)
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bennno said:
Have you driven a 4.0 Vantage?
I have, just doesn’t do it for me in many/most
areas.

robj4

448 posts

175 months

Yesterday (13:04)
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Frankychops said:
robj4 said:
How's your hearing? I'd miss the duality of the McLaren, quiet and comfortable or ballistic. Plus not sure you'd want to look back and pinch yourself every time you park a Cayman.

I loved my 981 GTS, not so much a boggo GT4, the Spyder RS is a different league of course, but I suspect to do any kind of touring the high revs in the cruise and noise would become tiresome.

The 9000rpm, way cheaper running costs and decent warranty would be nice change however.

Keep the 650 and go to the Silverstone porker experience and try one first maybe?
I ve had motorbikes and caterham style cars, noise doesn t bother me and I see it as part of the overall experience. The McLaren has been cheap to run and totally reliable, so I d expect the same sort of costs. Just want a Change to something different, ideally with a bit of drama, noise and b road engagement

Edited by Frankychops on Tuesday 28th October 09:05
Fair enough, I raced bikes for 20 years and love them more than cars, but the noise in a 981 GT4 was too much for me! Vive le difference, get a 4RS, wish I could have one just for track days and being a nutter.

bennno

14,566 posts

287 months

Yesterday (14:55)
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Frankychops said:
bennno said:
Have you driven a 4.0 Vantage?
I have, just doesn t do it for me in many/most
areas.
Pre 2019 model is a hoot. However i suggest look for a standard Spyder with a manual gearbox perhaps.....

Frankychops

Original Poster:

1,673 posts

27 months

Yesterday (16:41)
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bennno said:
Frankychops said:
bennno said:
Have you driven a 4.0 Vantage?
I have, just doesn t do it for me in many/most
areas.
Pre 2019 model is a hoot. However i suggest look for a standard Spyder with a manual gearbox perhaps.....
I’m not a fan of the gt4(none rs) engine/gearing

RSbandit

2,980 posts

150 months

Yesterday (20:06)
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I d advocate the n/a manual route as well of course that doesn t give you many cars to choose from but there are R8 V10s and 911 GT3s in the mix. I bought a 992 manual GT3 recently to run alongside my 675LT (replacing an AM DBS), I wanted something more engaging on a b-road blast than the Aston but with handling and chassis balance that s not far off a McLaren. V happy with it so far and definitely a different way of going about things compare to the McLaren. The Spyder RS is a v cool car and I think I’d have bought one if it had a manual option (despite the tricky roof!).

Edited by RSbandit on Tuesday 28th October 20:10