0W-20 oil or 5W-40 oil
0W-20 oil or 5W-40 oil
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Mr Miata

Original Poster:

1,216 posts

68 months

Hi, I m wanting to do an oil service on my own. And torn between which oil viscosity to use.

The manufacturer recommended 5W-40 oil for the pre facelift cars and then one year suddenly changed their recommendation to 0W-20.

Having gone down a rabbit hole on other forums. Some people claimed the manufacturer only did this to meet MPG fuel efficiency targets. And the thinner 0W-20 doesn t have any other benefit. Some even claimed the thinner oil can be detrimental for high mileage / highly stressed engines, as it offers less wear protection.

What do you think? Is this a wacky conspiracy theory and I should stick to the manufacturers recommendation of 0W-20? Or should I use the thicker 5W-40 instead, if I want to keep my car forever and run it into the ground? Thanks.

The cars a VW Golf. With the 2 litre EA888 engine. Around 60,000 miles.

Dave.

7,747 posts

271 months

Saturday
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Some good info on here....




E-bmw

11,531 posts

170 months

Saturday
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Mr Miata said:
Hi, I m wanting to do an oil service on my own. And torn between which oil viscosity to use.

The manufacturer recommended 5W-40 oil for the pre facelift cars and then one year suddenly changed their recommendation to 0W-20.

What do you think? Is this a wacky conspiracy theory and I should stick to the manufacturers recommendation of 0W-20? Or should I use the thicker 5W-40 instead, if I want to keep my car forever and run it into the ground?
Definitely a "whacky conspiracy theory" they want you to wear out your nice (newer) engine & then buy another, of course you should use the thinner less-protective oil.............

the-norseman

14,711 posts

189 months

Saturday
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FIAT/Alfa did a similar move with the 1.4 Multiair engine.

Mine is one of the later Euro 6 engines and needs the 0W oil.

Sheepshanks

38,195 posts

137 months

Saturday
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Not sure where 5W40 comes from - the alternative was always 5W30.

Mr Miata

Original Poster:

1,216 posts

68 months

E-bmw said:
Definitely a "whacky conspiracy theory" they want you to wear out your nice (newer) engine & then buy another, of course you should use the thinner less-protective oil.............
Do manufacturers really care about reliability once the car has exceeded its warranty period?

ChocolateFrog

33,131 posts

191 months

the-norseman said:
FIAT/Alfa did a similar move with the 1.4 Multiair engine.

Mine is one of the later Euro 6 engines and needs the 0W oil.
I'm not sure you understand oil specifications. Nothing wrong with a Zero weight Winter oil. 0W is still way more viscous when cold than a 40 weight oil is at operating temperature.

ChocolateFrog

33,131 posts

191 months

You're conflating several different things which I can't really be bothered to go in to.

Thinner oil is predominantly for fuel efficiency and like for like a heavier weight oil will provide more protection than the same spec oil in a lower viscosity.

As mentioned it does seem unlikely that the 2 options are 0W-20 and 5W-40. It's more common to spec 0W-20 or 5W-30. Read up on the meaning of the multi grade viscosities. Anyone who says anything along the lines of a 0W is too thin categorically doesn't know what they're talking about, it's actually quite funny.

Either way a good quality oil changed regularly and of the correct spec then you're unlikely to go wrong and the engine should outlive the car.

E-bmw

11,531 posts

170 months

Yesterday (06:54)
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Mr Miata said:
E-bmw said:
Definitely a "whacky conspiracy theory" they want you to wear out your nice (newer) engine & then buy another, of course you should use the thinner less-protective oil.............
Do manufacturers really care about reliability once the car has exceeded its warranty period?
Unfortunately sarcasm is not easy to spot in the written word. wink

Smint

2,582 posts

53 months

Yesterday (07:37)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok8HcUrzeE

This video came up on my feed.

Engines tested, some using 0w-20, others using 5w30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ok8HcUrzeE

and here's a rebuttal of that video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyBUcxFmqn8

Edited by Smint on Monday 27th October 12:17

stevemcs

9,669 posts

111 months

Yesterday (07:45)
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They all seem to be at it, we use Haynes pro and it very often goes against what the manufacturers suggest.

I use 5w30 in mine and will continue to do so, I believe they recommend 5w40 if it’s remapped/tracked.