Is this too much for an F56 JCW?
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I’m looking at a 2015 manual JCW 3 door hatch for sale privately with around 60k miles on. The asking price is £13k but looking at the value sites and other cars for sale that looks a bit steep?
It is a really nice and quite rare spec, manual and fully loaded with extras so assume that might knock the price up a bit but I’m still thinking that should be going more for around £11k for a private sale?
It’s also due a service next month, last service was nov 2023 but it’s only done 2k miles since then, and to keep the service schedule happy it should have another one within 2 years.
What are your thoughts?
It is a really nice and quite rare spec, manual and fully loaded with extras so assume that might knock the price up a bit but I’m still thinking that should be going more for around £11k for a private sale?
It’s also due a service next month, last service was nov 2023 but it’s only done 2k miles since then, and to keep the service schedule happy it should have another one within 2 years.
What are your thoughts?
I have a feeling a seller like that will want to try and negotiate over the service alone.
IME most "fully loaded" actually aren't, a few packs gets a lot, but sometimes it's silly things like a heated rear window blanked on the panel, which was something like £160. Weird to not tick that but to have the HUD, pan roof and HK etc. Arguably not having an auto box (obvs a cost option) means it isn't as loaded as it could be.
Post the spec, we'll soon find out!
IME most "fully loaded" actually aren't, a few packs gets a lot, but sometimes it's silly things like a heated rear window blanked on the panel, which was something like £160. Weird to not tick that but to have the HUD, pan roof and HK etc. Arguably not having an auto box (obvs a cost option) means it isn't as loaded as it could be.
Post the spec, we'll soon find out!
Thanks for the replies, gives me more to think about. I was just comparing cars for the same price that have a bit less mileage but are dealer cars therefore get at least some warranty but maybe I shouldn’t be assuming that private should be cheaper?
As for spec it has pretty much every option ticked. Heated windscreen, even adaptive cruise which very few have. The addition of it being a manual too i think is pretty rare.
I think the rarity is the reason for the asking price.
As for spec it has pretty much every option ticked. Heated windscreen, even adaptive cruise which very few have. The addition of it being a manual too i think is pretty rare.
I think the rarity is the reason for the asking price.
Chris-1e43g said:
Thanks for the replies, gives me more to think about. I was just comparing cars for the same price that have a bit less mileage but are dealer cars therefore get at least some warranty but maybe I shouldn t be assuming that private should be cheaper?
As for spec it has pretty much every option ticked. Heated windscreen, even adaptive cruise which very few have. The addition of it being a manual too i think is pretty rare.
I think the rarity is the reason for the asking price.
I didn't think you could have adaptive cruise with a manual gearbox.As for spec it has pretty much every option ticked. Heated windscreen, even adaptive cruise which very few have. The addition of it being a manual too i think is pretty rare.
I think the rarity is the reason for the asking price.
AT and other sites provide guide valuations. I'd expect to save at least a grand buying privately with no warranty etc. At 10 years old I'd prioritise condition, mileage and maintenance history over spec. Everything else being equal, maybe a grand difference between a very low spec and very high spec.
Check the JCW spec for that year as sellers like to list items, intimating they were options, when they were part of the standard spec.
Didn’t think adaptive cruise was available pre LCI?
We got a 2016 JCW a couple of months ago. Auto, 29,000 miles, rebel green with red bits, sunroof, heated screen, normal cruise and a media something or other, 16.5k. Might be other options on it as well but I sort of went for condition over spec - it’s mint, nearly new matching Pirelli runflats on almost perfect non refurbed 18” wheels, just serviced too. I tried and failed to negotiate.
The 60,000 mile one needing a service sounds expensive tbh unless you really really value the HK etc.
We got a 2016 JCW a couple of months ago. Auto, 29,000 miles, rebel green with red bits, sunroof, heated screen, normal cruise and a media something or other, 16.5k. Might be other options on it as well but I sort of went for condition over spec - it’s mint, nearly new matching Pirelli runflats on almost perfect non refurbed 18” wheels, just serviced too. I tried and failed to negotiate.
The 60,000 mile one needing a service sounds expensive tbh unless you really really value the HK etc.
Thanks for the comparison, that’s really helpful.
Yeah adaptive cruise is a rare option, even more rare on a manual! Also it’s not the best implementation as it uses cameras only, I had it on a previous f56 and would turn off in direct sun. It’s just that I want something that’ll do local country lanes by me yet also do some 200 mile jaunts once a month and it would be helpful.
I agree, selling just before the service is interesting, it’s only done 2k miles in 2 years but keeping the service “full” it will still need doing as it’s going to hit the 2 year mark next month. Recent MOT also says it has some cracks in the rear tyres so I reckon they will need doing as are probably quite old.
I think £12k is a reasonable ask due to being private, 60k miles, needing a service and new tyres. It’s just a shame as it’s otherwise a perfect spec and I don’t know when another green manual one will come about with pan roof, adaptive cruise, HK, XL media etc!
I think I’ll offer 12 and then just wait it out to see if another one pops up
Yeah adaptive cruise is a rare option, even more rare on a manual! Also it’s not the best implementation as it uses cameras only, I had it on a previous f56 and would turn off in direct sun. It’s just that I want something that’ll do local country lanes by me yet also do some 200 mile jaunts once a month and it would be helpful.
I agree, selling just before the service is interesting, it’s only done 2k miles in 2 years but keeping the service “full” it will still need doing as it’s going to hit the 2 year mark next month. Recent MOT also says it has some cracks in the rear tyres so I reckon they will need doing as are probably quite old.
I think £12k is a reasonable ask due to being private, 60k miles, needing a service and new tyres. It’s just a shame as it’s otherwise a perfect spec and I don’t know when another green manual one will come about with pan roof, adaptive cruise, HK, XL media etc!
I think I’ll offer 12 and then just wait it out to see if another one pops up
Chris-1e43g said:
Thanks for the comparison, that s really helpful.
Yeah adaptive cruise is a rare option, even more rare on a manual! Also it s not the best implementation as it uses cameras only, I had it on a previous f56 and would turn off in direct sun. It s just that I want something that ll do local country lanes by me yet also do some 200 mile jaunts once a month and it would be helpful.
I agree, selling just before the service is interesting, it s only done 2k miles in 2 years but keeping the service full it will still need doing as it s going to hit the 2 year mark next month. Recent MOT also says it has some cracks in the rear tyres so I reckon they will need doing as are probably quite old.
I think £12k is a reasonable ask due to being private, 60k miles, needing a service and new tyres. It s just a shame as it s otherwise a perfect spec and I don t know when another green manual one will come about with pan roof, adaptive cruise, HK, XL media etc!
I think I ll offer 12 and then just wait it out to see if another one pops up
Well if it's rebel green that changes things Yeah adaptive cruise is a rare option, even more rare on a manual! Also it s not the best implementation as it uses cameras only, I had it on a previous f56 and would turn off in direct sun. It s just that I want something that ll do local country lanes by me yet also do some 200 mile jaunts once a month and it would be helpful.
I agree, selling just before the service is interesting, it s only done 2k miles in 2 years but keeping the service full it will still need doing as it s going to hit the 2 year mark next month. Recent MOT also says it has some cracks in the rear tyres so I reckon they will need doing as are probably quite old.
I think £12k is a reasonable ask due to being private, 60k miles, needing a service and new tyres. It s just a shame as it s otherwise a perfect spec and I don t know when another green manual one will come about with pan roof, adaptive cruise, HK, XL media etc!
I think I ll offer 12 and then just wait it out to see if another one pops up
Spec does sound exceptional - the holy grail is spec like that and a caring owner - knackered tyres and arguably needing a service is a shame.
I don’t think it needs a service….would you seriously service a 9yr old car again within 2k of last service just before you sold it, if brake fluid is good why would you ?
Perhaps to maintain a warranty, or those were 2ks worth of track miles ?
Would not be a reason I’d use to walk away from a good car.
Many people would also think a manual was a bonus…, I wouldn’t look at autos when I got mine last year
Perhaps to maintain a warranty, or those were 2ks worth of track miles ?
Would not be a reason I’d use to walk away from a good car.
Many people would also think a manual was a bonus…, I wouldn’t look at autos when I got mine last year
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