New school problems
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My son started school last month.
I did think we'd see a change in behaviours but not maybe quite this much.
Email today from teacher;
1. He was rude and making loud noises in competition with another boy (who's been a PITA by all accounts)
2. Misbehaving at lunch so got taken to headmasters office
3. Then poked a girl in the eye
The main problems I think are his class size, he has 30 kids in his class and another 30 in the other class in the nursery. (Last year they had 44). The teacher doesn't seem that authoritative, I know these kids are 4 years old but christ I remember my first teachers.
The other problem is influences and exposure to bad behaviour from other kids e.g. Hitting/Shouting, one child (friend from nursery) in particular has had his mother sharing correspondence with this teacher in a WA group (Told mrs to get the fk out of the group)....and tbh with other kids I can't control this when he is within the confines of school gates, however how do you deal with this?
That may mean these teachers are "run off" their feet, but from my perspective he has only started being like this since arriving at there door last month.
Parents evening.
I did think we'd see a change in behaviours but not maybe quite this much.
Email today from teacher;
1. He was rude and making loud noises in competition with another boy (who's been a PITA by all accounts)
2. Misbehaving at lunch so got taken to headmasters office
3. Then poked a girl in the eye
The main problems I think are his class size, he has 30 kids in his class and another 30 in the other class in the nursery. (Last year they had 44). The teacher doesn't seem that authoritative, I know these kids are 4 years old but christ I remember my first teachers.
The other problem is influences and exposure to bad behaviour from other kids e.g. Hitting/Shouting, one child (friend from nursery) in particular has had his mother sharing correspondence with this teacher in a WA group (Told mrs to get the fk out of the group)....and tbh with other kids I can't control this when he is within the confines of school gates, however how do you deal with this?
That may mean these teachers are "run off" their feet, but from my perspective he has only started being like this since arriving at there door last month.
Parents evening.
IMO it is less about the teacher at this point and more about seeing "exciting" behaviour in other kids and responding through imitation or hyper responses. At that age thier whole world changes as they go to school, big class, less direct influence even if the teacher is great...and being kids they try out new behaviours.
Time to work with school and to bring every influence you have to bear on your kid. Keep those open conversations going with your kid...
Time to work with school and to bring every influence you have to bear on your kid. Keep those open conversations going with your kid...
fourstardan said:
My son started school last month.
I did think we'd see a change in behaviours but not maybe quite this much.
Email today from teacher;
1. He was rude and making loud noises in competition with another boy (who's been a PITA by all accounts)
2. Misbehaving at lunch so got taken to headmasters office
3. Then poked a girl in the eye
The main problems I think are his class size, he has 30 kids in his class and another 30 in the other class in the nursery. (Last year they had 44). The teacher doesn't seem that authoritative, I know these kids are 4 years old but christ I remember my first teachers.
The other problem is influences and exposure to bad behaviour from other kids e.g. Hitting/Shouting, one child (friend from nursery) in particular has had his mother sharing correspondence with this teacher in a WA group (Told mrs to get the fk out of the group)....and tbh with other kids I can't control this when he is within the confines of school gates, however how do you deal with this?
That may mean these teachers are "run off" their feet, but from my perspective he has only started being like this since arriving at there door last month.
Parents evening.
So your son started school, he's been misbehaving and you seem to be blaming class sizes, the influence of others and a weak teacher for not sorting it?I did think we'd see a change in behaviours but not maybe quite this much.
Email today from teacher;
1. He was rude and making loud noises in competition with another boy (who's been a PITA by all accounts)
2. Misbehaving at lunch so got taken to headmasters office
3. Then poked a girl in the eye
The main problems I think are his class size, he has 30 kids in his class and another 30 in the other class in the nursery. (Last year they had 44). The teacher doesn't seem that authoritative, I know these kids are 4 years old but christ I remember my first teachers.
The other problem is influences and exposure to bad behaviour from other kids e.g. Hitting/Shouting, one child (friend from nursery) in particular has had his mother sharing correspondence with this teacher in a WA group (Told mrs to get the fk out of the group)....and tbh with other kids I can't control this when he is within the confines of school gates, however how do you deal with this?
That may mean these teachers are "run off" their feet, but from my perspective he has only started being like this since arriving at there door last month.
Parents evening.
Maybe you should talk to your son and explain what's what etc?
Parenting and taking responsibility et all
Monkeylegend said:
Dog Biscuit said:
Antony Moxey said:
If your son can t control a bunch of four year olds maybe he should speak to the head and ask for a bit of help from someone more experienced.
His son is one of the four year olds.The first term of reception is probably a bit of a free for all, but you ll start to see by Christmas whether he s on the right track or not.
However, you are already seeing why some state schools are a problem - vast numbers and lowest common denominator wins the attention (even though it s usually bad) - it s a real problem for many children, the ones who need more help and the ones who need to be challenged more all suffer.
What is the rest of his behaviour like? My son was very easily led and ‘class clown’ like in reception, was fairly clear by Xmas that he wasn’t picking up things like other children were, then was diagnosed with combined ADHD over the summer
However, you are already seeing why some state schools are a problem - vast numbers and lowest common denominator wins the attention (even though it s usually bad) - it s a real problem for many children, the ones who need more help and the ones who need to be challenged more all suffer.
What is the rest of his behaviour like? My son was very easily led and ‘class clown’ like in reception, was fairly clear by Xmas that he wasn’t picking up things like other children were, then was diagnosed with combined ADHD over the summer
Edited by okgo on Monday 13th October 21:53
So your son started school, he's been misbehaving and you seem to be blaming class sizes, the influence of others and a weak teacher for not sorting it?
Maybe you should talk to your son and explain what's what etc?
Parenting and taking responsibility et all
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im with this, (when I was a boy, never did me any harm) etc) I know kids dont get a slap these days but he should certainly know that he will be deprived of thing and start to learn that actions have consequences. although maybe a bit young at 4, . favourite TV show?... nope, Phone / computer .. nope, pocket money, nope.." because your school say you've been naughty" its the parents duty to instill behaviour not the schools.
Sebring440 said:
And there it is...
Not your little cherub.
I.meant the disruptive child.Not your little cherub.
Thanks for any constructive views. I will put class down to part of this, 30 4 year olds and then 60 im the combined sessions must be absolute carnage.
My son is not opening up a lot because he is learning he is in the wrong.
He is five next week btw so a year ahead some other kids.
His birthday is next week so i can only imagine there is some excitement.
He has only been there a month, this has been the worst report and thst was momday morning so the outside influences feels like a valid reason.
It's quite normal to combine early years groups together, they'll not have one teacher for 60 children.
Many of my schools have free flowing early years provision.
Equally it's perfectly normal for children to take a while to settle and schools will have a number a strategies to try.
What is massively important however is parental backing.
Children need to understand you're with the school, it's not him and you verses the nasty teachers, it's the teachers and you who are really disappointed!
Back up the school, issue a massive b
king and see how it goes.
Many of my schools have free flowing early years provision.
Equally it's perfectly normal for children to take a while to settle and schools will have a number a strategies to try.
What is massively important however is parental backing.
Children need to understand you're with the school, it's not him and you verses the nasty teachers, it's the teachers and you who are really disappointed!
Back up the school, issue a massive b
king and see how it goes.dundarach said:
It's quite normal to combine early years groups together, they'll not have one teacher for 60 children.
Many of my schools have free flowing early years provision.
Equally it's perfectly normal for children to take a while to settle and schools will have a number a strategies to try.
What is massively important however is parental backing.
Children need to understand you're with the school, it's not him and you verses the nasty teachers, it's the teachers and you who are really disappointed!
Back up the school, issue a massive bking and see how it goes.
Of course weve said about the school being right, weve said he needs to avoid and not copy other children misbehaving as there will be consequences.Many of my schools have free flowing early years provision.
Equally it's perfectly normal for children to take a while to settle and schools will have a number a strategies to try.
What is massively important however is parental backing.
Children need to understand you're with the school, it's not him and you verses the nasty teachers, it's the teachers and you who are really disappointed!
Back up the school, issue a massive b
king and see how it goes.As a side note im astounded that they let them watch TV, is this normal?
fourstardan said:
Sebring440 said:
And there it is...
Not your little cherub.
I meant the disruptive child.Not your little cherub.
Thanks for any constructive views. I will put class down to part of this, 30 4 year olds and then 60 im the combined sessions must be absolute carnage.
My son is not opening up a lot because he is learning he is in the wrong.
He is five next week btw so a year ahead some other kids.
His birthday is next week so i can only imagine there is some excitement.
He has only been there a month, this has been the worst report and thst was momday morning so the outside influences feels like a valid reason.
fourstardan said:
Of course weve said about the school being right, weve said he needs to avoid and not copy other children misbehaving as there will be consequences.
As a side note im astounded that they let them watch TV, is this normal?
Normal enough. TV can be useful for settling a class down after some exciting or disruptive activity. Depends what they are being shown I suppose.As a side note im astounded that they let them watch TV, is this normal?
My lad is 8 and very occasionally through primary school they sit and watch a movie in class, or maybe the odd time a programme about something local they are learning about. They've also watched some stuff on kids experiences during WW2 as part of a wider programme of learning.
I don't have an issue with it, it's not hidden and it doesn't seem to be simply for the purposes of giving the teachers some peace.
I had more of an issue at the private nursery he went to before school where they said they put the tv on at the end of the day around pickup time, but many times I turned up outside that time they were watching tv. I let it go but other parents were furious.
fourstardan said:
Sebring440 said:
And there it is...
Not your little cherub.
I.meant the disruptive child.Not your little cherub.
Thanks for any constructive views. I will put class down to part of this, 30 4 year olds and then 60 im the combined sessions must be absolute carnage.
My son is not opening up a lot because he is learning he is in the wrong.
He is five next week btw so a year ahead some other kids.
His birthday is next week so i can only imagine there is some excitement.
He has only been there a month, this has been the worst report and thst was momday morning so the outside influences feels like a valid reason.
I was probably one of those naughty kids at school, I was bored and struggled to concentrate, I found school incredibly boring not least because of the effort my parents put in to get me ahead on reading, maths etc. can you imagine being that age, knowing how to read and do arithmetic and then having to sit there while everyone around you is being taught it. That said being surrounded by incompetents was probably good practice for later life in employment.
Still don't play well with others.
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