G99 M5 - daily use

[dave123456]

Looking at potentially replacing my Merc C43 tourer with an M5.

Cover c360 miles per week in 3 days, roads are a mix of a and b.

Would lease with maintenance. Anything that I should consider?

Thanks

[Night Owl]

dave123456 said:

Looking at potentially replacing my Merc C43 tourer with an M5.

Cover c360 miles per week in 3 days, roads are a mix of a and b.

Would lease with maintenance. Anything that I should consider?

Thanks

Neighbor has one. They are huge cars, so not the easiest to run on narrow roads. Coming from a C-Class, I would think that will take some adjustment. Here in Germany, the G31 is my size limit, and I can imagine parts of the UK are worse in terms of space.

[wattsm666]

I’m not completely sure but I think tyre wear is fairly heavy on the M5, you probably need to read some long term reviews.

[a_dreamer]

I really fancy one but just found it too big

The M3 is size the m5's used to be, at least in my head.

It's also bloody heavy so I felt I'd go through tyres and brakes in no time or be driving it constantly wary of doing so. Not an issue if money not a problem, but I think you need to get an extended test drive and check you are happy with the size of it. Especially if you like a bit of b road fun

[JMX2M35i]

It's no faster than an F90 M5 but that weight is a joke and the size of it way to big.

[CSK423]

JMX2M35i said:

It's no faster than an F90 M5 but that weight is a joke and the size of it way to big.

I don't think it can be said that it's no faster than the F90. It depends what scenario you find yourself in. Day to day living it's a faster car.

The weight issue seems to have lost the attention it once had due to how the car drives and copes with this in the day to day living. The hybrid is forced on this model to retain the V8 and in turn that has the impact of a heavy battery. Smaller engine less hybrid tech or large engine more hybrid tech. AMG went down the first road and paid the price.

All cars are increasing in size as models evolve, it's not unique to this model.

I think it can be quiet lazy to say hasn't got faster, it's too heavy and it's increased in size. Has it got better looking (subjective anyway) ? Has the quality of the product dropped (especially the interior) ? Has the equipment list shrunk ? Are the driving settings too complicated ? etc. These kind of questions are more applicable in my mind to criticise the current M5.

Edited by CSK423 on Wednesday 22 October 14:19

[CSK423]

dave123456 said:

Looking at potentially replacing my Merc C43 tourer with an M5.

Cover c360 miles per week in 3 days, roads are a mix of a and b.

Would lease with maintenance. Anything that I should consider?

Thanks

Electric only range is c40-45 miles depending on driving, which you'll burn through in one leg of your commute based on your mileage. If you can charge for the return leg you'll certainly get decent mileage out of a tank of fuel for a V8.

Running in service is £500-600 and happens between 850 and 1200miles.

Lease deals (personal, can't comment on business) weren't that attractive and PCP worked out the most cost effective. Although APR is now up at 5.9% unless you have BMW loyalty then it's 4.9%.

Sometimes the ride can give you the odd jolt and it continues to bounce on the back of it but in general I think it rides well. If you want a softer M style car go down the m performance route with a different model.

Overtaking is very punchy, especially if you pull the boost paddle which is like stretching an elastic band to build up all energy then letting it go.

Options wise it comes with the usual stuff. My personal preference was the comfort pack for the rear blinds to protect the wee ones further plus it adds in the ventilated front seats and heated rears.

Hardest choice for me was exterior and interior colour. Blue, green and black were done to death so went Alpine White with Red interior.

[Mahalo]

Had one out for an extended test drive last week as I am considering the Touring.
Car is fast, yes it's wide which is an issue on country roads etc. Weight you can feel but it does hide it well. Looks are an acquired taste. Ride was good for a M car - mpg is good whilst you have battery power but drops once the battery is exhausted.
Biggest disappointment was the interior which is had clearly been cost engineered to what I feel is an unacceptable level. It shows in all sorts of things like cheap plasticy steering wheel, door trim that flexes and looks cheap, centre console that flexes when you push the buttons. Changing driving modes is a pain as you have to go into the menu if you want to revert back from say M1 or M2.

[gizard]

Mahalo said:

... Changing driving modes is a pain as you have to go into the menu if you want to revert back from say M1 or M2.

Just push the M1 or M2 button again and it goes back to what you were on before

[JMX2M35i]

CSK423 said:

I don't think it can be said that it's no faster than the F90. It depends what scenario you find yourself in. Day to day living it's a faster car.

The weight issue seems to have lost the attention it once had due to how the car drives and copes with this in the day to day living. The hybrid is forced on this model to retain the V8 and in turn that has the impact of a heavy battery. Smaller engine less hybrid tech or large engine more hybrid tech. AMG went down the first road and paid the price.

All cars are increasing in size as models evolve, it's not unique to this model.

I think it can be quiet lazy to say hasn't got faster, it's too heavy and it's increased in size. Has it got better looking (subjective anyway) ? Has the quality of the product dropped (especially the interior) ? Has the equipment list shrunk ? Are the driving settings too complicated ? etc. These kind of questions are more applicable in my mind to criticise the current M5.

Edited by CSK423 on Wednesday 22 October 14:19

I have had 5 F90 M5's and driven the new M5 back to back with my last on, my concusions stick.

[Night Owl]

CSK423 said:

I don't think it can be said that it's no faster than the F90. It depends what scenario you find yourself in. Day to day living it's a faster car.

The weight issue seems to have lost the attention it once had due to how the car drives and copes with this in the day to day living. The hybrid is forced on this model to retain the V8 and in turn that has the impact of a heavy battery. Smaller engine less hybrid tech or large engine more hybrid tech. AMG went down the first road and paid the price.

All cars are increasing in size as models evolve, it's not unique to this model.

I think it can be quiet lazy to say hasn't got faster, it's too heavy and it's increased in size. Has it got better looking (subjective anyway) ? Has the quality of the product dropped (especially the interior) ? Has the equipment list shrunk ? Are the driving settings too complicated ? etc. These kind of questions are more applicable in my mind to criticise the current M5.

Edited by CSK423 on Wednesday 22 October 14:19

They did well to keep the M5 alive in this new age of nonsense we live in, but the car is still a pig. I really do not understand why they made it so big. I have a G31 and could not imagine going bigger on European roads.

[gizard]

I think it is a fast comfortable cruiser - GT if you like - never really expected anything else and certainly doesn't feel appreciably bigger than my previous F90 (and I have the G99 variant).

If I want to drive fast on B roads I would use something more appropriate - even the E92s I used to have felt big there, the M3 touring doesn't feel much smaller to me. Loti - much more suited

[Pizzaeatingking]

I've not experience driving these but I've seen a few about now, they don't look noticeably huge. Is the extra 7cm width really that noticeable?

[A44RON]

JMX2M35i said:

I have had 5 F90 M5's and driven the new M5 back to back with my last on, my concusions stick.

I remember your F90 M5s fondly, JM

I'm currently reading the F90 M5 thread in here from start-to-finish (about half way through so far), and the level of praise, hype, excitement and all-round positivity the F90 was getting 2018-2020 was night-and-day different to what this new hybrid M5 is getting. Take a look back at the F90 thread for anyone that doesn't believe me...

The F90 M5 is peak M5 all things considered.

This new M5 just isn't no way near as well received. I've also heard the interior is a step back. Interestingly a colleague test drove a G99 here and the demo model didn't even have soft-close doors! The G90/G99 is a by-product of BMW catering to the emissions regs (okay hands are tied on this), the Chinese market with its design language and the BMW Accountants cutting back anywhere they can!

I will buy a pre-LCI F90 in a couple of years after more fun with my F13 M6, and I will keep that for a very long time. Then replace with a late model LCI F90 and repeat lol.