How to get this Multiplug Clip Off.
How to get this Multiplug Clip Off.
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BikeBikeBIke

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12,271 posts

132 months

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How do I get this effing multiplug off? The obvious "presser" tab does nothing. Theres nothing under it for it to hit. I've sprayed with silicon spray.







This shows where the lugs are, if that helps:

https://www.trucksitaliana.com/en/spare-parts/air-...

Nickp82

3,649 posts

110 months

Thursday
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Little flatblade in there to lift latch part up and release?

Caddyshack

12,837 posts

223 months

Thursday
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Nickp82 said:
Little flatblade in there to lift latch part up and release?
Yes I agree but there must be a YouTube vid somewhere on it, I would have thought.

BikeBikeBIke

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Caddyshack said:
Nickp82 said:
Little flatblade in there to lift latch part up and release?
Yes I agree but there must be a YouTube vid somewhere on it, I would have thought.
In all the vids I've seen the guy gives the button a press and it pops off. Mine doesn't, and I can't see how it ever could.

I like the idea of pushing something into that slot to lift the plastic over the lug. It doesn't feel like it ought to work like that though.

The push bit isn't a latch or a ratchet. It's a flat bit of plastic that pushes on nothing at all.

Super Sonic

10,393 posts

71 months

Thursday
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Looking at the linked picture, the piece the clip attached two has two small plastic square lugs sticking up. I would imagine something inside the clip catches on those lugs. Is it possible to remove the airflow sensor with the multi plug attached so you can get a better look ?

Caddyshack

12,837 posts

223 months

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I suspect the presser tab has become weak or brittle and isn’t moving things as far as it should. I would add some wd40, press the tab and the lever it with the blade screwdriver and pull it hard.

BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

12,271 posts

132 months

Super Sonic said:
Looking at the linked picture, the piece the clip attached two has two small plastic square lugs sticking up. I would imagine something inside the clip catches on those lugs. Is it possible to remove the airflow sensor with the multi plug attached so you can get a better look ?
Yes, it's already off, I have pretty good access. (Not perfect beciase I don't want to damage the cable.) But yeah, I can look all around the clip. I just can't see how it ever worked. It's as though something is missing. Maybe there was something that slotted into that 'letter box' opening?

I'm thinking abuse a feeler gauge and get it between the MAF and the plug to lift the plastic over the lug. I really don't want to break it though.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 26th September 04:18

E-bmw

11,383 posts

169 months

Can you look down the "letter-box" at the end of the plug to see if you can lift the latch off the catches on the socket with a small screwdriver etc?

BikeBikeBIke

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132 months

E-bmw said:
Can you look down the "letter-box" at the end of the plug to see if you can lift the latch off the catches on the socket with a small screwdriver etc?
I can look down it but I can't see anything helpful. All looks smooth to me. However now I've slept on it I'll take a second look with a better torch, amd more patience. (Will be tomorrow now.)

I was hoping somene would recognise the clip as a specific type and tell me how the mechanism is supposed to work (even if something is missing).

donkmeister

10,723 posts

117 months

Possibly teaching your grandmother to suck eggs here but have you tried pushing and holding the connector in the "on" direction, then pressing the tab (understanding that it doesn't appear to push on anything, but it's clearly there for a reason) and pulling in the "off" direction? I find that sometimes frees things up on stubborn multi connectors.

If that doesn't work, can you see any evidence of damage on the bit where the tab pushes? It's not impossible that someone previously broke the nubbin off then glued the halves of the connector together.

JimM169

722 posts

139 months

I'd try using a pick in the slot half way along the connector to lift the other end of the tab, based on the idea it might be like a seesaw, pressing the tab end down lifts the other end up to clear a lug?

BlindedByTheLights

1,752 posts

114 months

As above, push the plug further on then press the tab it should pop right off.

GreenV8S

30,960 posts

301 months

What vehicle is it off? Google thinks that AFM you linked to is for a Traffic 1.9/2.0/2.5 dci, but the connectors matching that don't look similar to yours.

Seeing a new shiny connector in its disconnected state often helps figure out how it works.

BikeBikeBIke

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12,271 posts

132 months

GreenV8S said:
What vehicle is it off? Google thinks that AFM you linked to is for a Traffic 1.9/2.0/2.5 dci, but the connectors matching that don't look similar to yours.

Seeing a new shiny connector in its disconnected state often helps figure out how it works.
Google is correct, it's a Trafic 2.0, 2013.

I can't find a perfect image of a new plug (wish I could) but it seems like it's the correct clip beciase it fits the MAF just as it should.

BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

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132 months

donkmeister said:
Possibly teaching your grandmother to suck eggs here but have you tried pushing and holding the connector in the "on" direction, then pressing the tab (understanding that it doesn't appear to push on anything, but it's clearly there for a reason) and pulling in the "off" direction? I find that sometimes frees things up on stubborn multi connectors.

If that doesn't work, can you see any evidence of damage on the bit where the tab pushes? It's not impossible that someone previously broke the nubbin off then glued the halves of the connector together.
Many thanks. I have tried pushing but I didn't persevere. Worth another try.

Glassman

23,876 posts

232 months

Approach the tab from the loom side with a flat-bladed screwdriver. Get a couple of mm of lift on the tab and pull the whole thing back.


BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

12,271 posts

132 months

It's off!!!!

I pushed a smaller screwdriver between the MAF and the plastic of the clip lifting the plastic of the clip away from the lug.

I still don't understand how the clip works, even now its off. The mechanism must be broken, I think.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Saturday 27th September 10:19

droopsnoot

13,686 posts

259 months

Half the trouble I have splitting connectors on my Audi is not being entirely sure where it's supposed to come apart. Does it split on the red line, or the blue one?



It's not so bad with something accessible as I can often wiggle stuff around to see what moves and what does not, but it's more tricky on connectors down in the engine bay. I have just discovered a bit towards the end of the workshop manual that describes how the different shapes would come apart when they were new, which might help next time.

paul_c123

1,189 posts

10 months

BikeBikeBIke said:
It's off!!!!

I push a smaller screwdriver between the MAF and the plastic of the clip lifting the plastic of the clip away from the lug.

I still don't understand how the clip works, even now its off. The mechanism must be broken, I think.
I was going to say, its possible its broken (or gunked up) internally, so pressing the tab doesn't move the 'other' side of the lever to unclip the securing clip.

Sounds weird but one of my most useful tools is a hairdryer. I've broken enough bumper clips, plastic interior trim (clips), connectors etc in my time. So now, if I have a stiff clip, I'll give it a little heat and try again. You can get quite extreme, making the plastic really soft, and sometimes forcing it but only bending the plastic, which will probably go back into shape.

Since your clip is broken, it may be worth either stripping a bit off (it would probably hold anyway) or buying a new clip, depinning the broken one and transferring the connections.

The broken clip might explain why your having the EML fault code - I suspect the electrical connection has been forced and broken too.

BikeBikeBIke

Original Poster:

12,271 posts

132 months

paul_c123 said:
I was going to say, its possible its broken (or gunked up) internally, so pressing the tab doesn't move the 'other' side of the lever to unclip the securing clip.

Sounds weird but one of my most useful tools is a hairdryer. I've broken enough bumper clips, plastic interior trim (clips), connectors etc in my time. So now, if I have a stiff clip, I'll give it a little heat and try again. You can get quite extreme, making the plastic really soft, and sometimes forcing it but only bending the plastic, which will probably go back into shape.

Since your clip is broken, it may be worth either stripping a bit off (it would probably hold anyway) or buying a new clip, depinning the broken one and transferring the connections.

The broken clip might explain why your having the EML fault code - I suspect the electrical connection has been forced and broken too.
Good hair dryer trick. I've warmed clips but only to stop them breaking in winter. Never occurred to me to make them deliberately malleable.

My plan is try a new MAF, if no joy then get an auto electrician to sort the wiring.

I must confess the MAF doesn't look in the sort of condition where it's totally failed to the point where the error code can't be cleared. I fear this is wiring.

I'm sure the clip itself isn't the original problem, it was solid and hasn't been touched for at least 6 years. It might be now I've fked about with it, of course.

Edited by BikeBikeBIke on Friday 26th September 15:21