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I know that OIG only supports one car at a time to use the smart features, but there's nothing to stop you using the fixed slot for the other one.
Setup is Zaptec Go, Polestar 2, ID.3
I've set the Polestar up with OIG via the Polestar Energy app, and that is now working. The question is what to do with the other car, and actually whether I should make that the supported car. It probably needs charging more often.
Anyone doing this? How do you do it?
Setup is Zaptec Go, Polestar 2, ID.3
I've set the Polestar up with OIG via the Polestar Energy app, and that is now working. The question is what to do with the other car, and actually whether I should make that the supported car. It probably needs charging more often.
Anyone doing this? How do you do it?
otolith said:
I know that OIG only supports one car at a time to use the smart features, but there's nothing to stop you using the fixed slot for the other one.
Setup is Zaptec Go, Polestar 2, ID.3
I've set the Polestar up with OIG via the Polestar Energy app, and that is now working. The question is what to do with the other car, and actually whether I should make that the supported car. It probably needs charging more often.
Anyone doing this? How do you do it?
AIUI:Setup is Zaptec Go, Polestar 2, ID.3
I've set the Polestar up with OIG via the Polestar Energy app, and that is now working. The question is what to do with the other car, and actually whether I should make that the supported car. It probably needs charging more often.
Anyone doing this? How do you do it?
Neither the Polestar 2 nor the Zaptec Go are directly supported by Octopus Intelligent Go.
However, the Zaptec connects to Polestar Charge, which connects to OIG, enabling the integration.
Therefore AFAIK you won't be able to have the Zaptec connect to OIG to charge the ID3.
If the ID3 is directly supported via Octopus itself, you could connect it that way.
As you say you can use the timer in the car to make either one charge during the fixed overnight off peak hours, without the OIG integration.
Yep, the Polestar is managed by the Polestar Energy app, which talks to the charger. The ID.3 is natively compatible (will work with intelligent go with a granny charger) and can leave the charger out of it. So it will probably make sense to set the VW up for dynamic charging, set the charger to always on, and set the charge schedule in the Polestar to the fixed free rate period.
I’ve seen pictures of IOG with two cars so maybe they’re starting to develop it.
I think how you do it comes down to how much you need to chsrge on a regular basis. If the cars are only doing 200-300 miles a week, then a couple of overnight charges are all they need so alternate nights. My wall charger t8mer is set to the IOG window and it works, IOG complains sometimes it can’t control the car when it tries to start charging earlier but that’s no great loss. If I need a big charge I override the charger.
I think how you do it comes down to how much you need to chsrge on a regular basis. If the cars are only doing 200-300 miles a week, then a couple of overnight charges are all they need so alternate nights. My wall charger t8mer is set to the IOG window and it works, IOG complains sometimes it can’t control the car when it tries to start charging earlier but that’s no great loss. If I need a big charge I override the charger.
We have an Explorer and our Ohme charger is being fitted Mon/ Tues this week. We're with Octopus so was going to switch to Intelligent Go.
I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
nordboy said:
We have an Explorer and our Ohme charger is being fitted Mon/ Tues this week. We're with Octopus so was going to switch to Intelligent Go.
I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
You link the Ohme charger to Octopus. In the Ohme app you can configure multiple cars.I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
However all the Ohme app and charger know is the battery size of the cars. It doesn't know which car is plugged in or how much charge is in it. There is no smart communication through the charging cable.
When you plug a car in you would select that car in the app and set what percentage of charge you want to add.
Caveated with I've only got one car so haven't tried it.
nordboy said:
We have an Explorer and our Ohme charger is being fitted Mon/ Tues this week. We're with Octopus so was going to switch to Intelligent Go.
I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
IOG gives everything in the household cheap electricity between 11:30 om and 5:30 am including any other cars that are charging. The only thing it doesn't seem to do (although that may be changing) is control more than one car to stop and start charging, or give you extra time slots based on the needs of the second car (which may be different if you connect the charger and not one of the cars).I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
So assuming your house setup is capable of charging 2 cars at the same time, just set the second one to start charging at 11:30pm and stop at 5:30 or when at thge target SoC and its a non issue. 6 hours, 7 kwh, 42kwh added, thats typically between 120 and 160 miles of real world added every night. If you need a more than that every day on 2 cars, then you may well be worth double checking with a sparky/DNO that you can have 2 chargers fitted as its not always possible.
I think it comes down to what your combination of cars and chargers is.
In the end I added the VW as a second device and it seems to work fine. Either car gets plugged in and it creates a schedule and charges it accordingly. From what I read, that shouldn’t work, but it does. Maybe it didn’t used to.
The Polestar 2 doesn’t natively support OIG, so to make it work you either need a charger which does, or a charger which can be controlled by the Octopus Energy app which acts as an intermediary between car, Octopus, and charger. OIG sees Polestar Energy as if it was the car.
So this scenario - OIG capable VW, Polestar Energy capable charger - does work with two cars.
In the end I added the VW as a second device and it seems to work fine. Either car gets plugged in and it creates a schedule and charges it accordingly. From what I read, that shouldn’t work, but it does. Maybe it didn’t used to.
The Polestar 2 doesn’t natively support OIG, so to make it work you either need a charger which does, or a charger which can be controlled by the Octopus Energy app which acts as an intermediary between car, Octopus, and charger. OIG sees Polestar Energy as if it was the car.
So this scenario - OIG capable VW, Polestar Energy capable charger - does work with two cars.
otolith said:
I think it comes down to what your combination of cars and chargers is.
In the end I added the VW as a second device and it seems to work fine. Either car gets plugged in and it creates a schedule and charges it accordingly. From what I read, that shouldn t work, but it does. Maybe it didn t used to.
The Polestar 2 doesn t natively support OIG, so to make it work you either need a charger which does, or a charger which can be controlled by the Octopus Energy app which acts as an intermediary between car, Octopus, and charger. OIG sees Polestar Energy as if it was the car.
So this scenario - OIG capable VW, Polestar Energy capable charger - does work with two cars.
I think that works because you still only have 1 car connected natively to Octopus. We have 2 Teslas and Octopus only supports a single connection directly to Tesla. So we just have the other car set to charge only from 23:30-05:30, which is fine really. The Octopus system doesn’t currently support multiple Tesla accounts, although they keep saying it might do in future. In the end I added the VW as a second device and it seems to work fine. Either car gets plugged in and it creates a schedule and charges it accordingly. From what I read, that shouldn t work, but it does. Maybe it didn t used to.
The Polestar 2 doesn t natively support OIG, so to make it work you either need a charger which does, or a charger which can be controlled by the Octopus Energy app which acts as an intermediary between car, Octopus, and charger. OIG sees Polestar Energy as if it was the car.
So this scenario - OIG capable VW, Polestar Energy capable charger - does work with two cars.
In hindsight I could connect my Zappi charger directly to Octopus instead of the car and then it would work intelligently for both cars. But I can’t be bothered changing it as it works flawlessly as is and the fixed charge window is fine for one car.
nordboy said:
Ok, that's a bit better then, at least if I bought an EV that I would be able to charge it.
I'm hoping that me and the wife can organise it so we don't need to charge at the same time, we shouldn't need to charge any of the cars every night. So should need a bit of coordination.
Yes, you will certainly be able to charge 2 cars without much hassle. We have 2 cars both doing around 15k miles per year and it is never a problem charging them on alternate nights. I usually just plug in the one with the lowest charge at the end of the day. Simple as that. I'm hoping that me and the wife can organise it so we don't need to charge at the same time, we shouldn't need to charge any of the cars every night. So should need a bit of coordination.
uktrailmonster said:
I think that works because you still only have 1 car connected natively to Octopus. We have 2 Teslas and Octopus only supports a single connection directly to Tesla. So we just have the other car set to charge only from 23:30-05:30, which is fine really. The Octopus system doesn t currently support multiple Tesla accounts, although they keep saying it might do in future.
In hindsight I could connect my Zappi charger directly to Octopus instead of the car and then it would work intelligently for both cars. But I can t be bothered changing it as it works flawlessly as is and the fixed charge window is fine for one car.
Could well be the case, though I think Polestar Energy is basically emulating a native connection from OIG’s point of view. This stuff does all feel a bit sticky tape and chewing gum from a systems integration point of view. In hindsight I could connect my Zappi charger directly to Octopus instead of the car and then it would work intelligently for both cars. But I can t be bothered changing it as it works flawlessly as is and the fixed charge window is fine for one car.
otolith said:
Could well be the case, though I think Polestar Energy is basically emulating a native connection from OIG s point of view. This stuff does all feel a bit sticky tape and chewing gum from a systems integration point of view.
I think that’s ok because it’s not trying to connect 2 cars of the same type. Like I know it specifically can’t support two Tesla native connections at the moment, for whatever technical reason. Probably Elon Musk’s fault again!I don’t think it will support a native car connection and a charger connection at the same time either, but I’ve never tried that.
frisbee said:
nordboy said:
We have an Explorer and our Ohme charger is being fitted Mon/ Tues this week. We're with Octopus so was going to switch to Intelligent Go.
I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
You link the Ohme charger to Octopus. In the Ohme app you can configure multiple cars.I had no idea that Intelligent Go would only support 1 vehicle?
I've been thinking about replacing my car with an EV as well, and a Polestar 2 was on the list. But I don't want to if I can't charge my car at home as well, I just assumed that you'd plug in whichever car you wanted charging and off it'd go?
Is it a bigger problem with Polestar? If so I'll be knocking them straight off the list.
However all the Ohme app and charger know is the battery size of the cars. It doesn't know which car is plugged in or how much charge is in it. There is no smart communication through the charging cable.
When you plug a car in you would select that car in the app and set what percentage of charge you want to add.
Caveated with I've only got one car so haven't tried it.
frisbee said:
You link the Ohme charger to Octopus. In the Ohme app you can configure multiple cars.
However all the Ohme app and charger know is the battery size of the cars. It doesn't know which car is plugged in or how much charge is in it. There is no smart communication through the charging cable.
When you plug a car in you would select that car in the app and set what percentage of charge you want to add.
Caveated with I've only got one car so haven't tried it.
That's not actually true - I have a Tesla and a Mini and when I set up the Mini in the Ohme app, it was able to communicate and know precisely how much charge was in the car. Mini have since withdrawn the ability for Ohme to do that, but it worked well when they did have access and hopefully that access will be given back soon. Either way, the Ohme is what's connected to my IOG, so I get smart charging regardless of which car is plugged in.However all the Ohme app and charger know is the battery size of the cars. It doesn't know which car is plugged in or how much charge is in it. There is no smart communication through the charging cable.
When you plug a car in you would select that car in the app and set what percentage of charge you want to add.
Caveated with I've only got one car so haven't tried it.
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