Apollo 15
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Simpo Two

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89,805 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th September
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I bet even Eric didn't know this...

'In June 1972, a scandal involving the crew of NASA's Apollo 15 became publicly known'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15_postal_cov...

jingars

1,187 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th September
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I bet he does...


Covered with brutal honestly by Al Worden in his (co-written) autobiography.

CLK-GTR

1,592 posts

263 months

Saturday 13th September
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Quite well known story if you follow this sort of thing.

You can pick them up for about 10k now.

Simpo Two

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89,805 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th September
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I found it in a rabbit hole. I was watching a YT video about the DH Mosquito, and for some reason in the middle of it was a clip of an envelope addressed to chap at the university in Oklahoma. I googled his name and he was a stamp collector...

Eric Mc

124,173 posts

283 months

Sunday 14th September
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Of course I knew about it. In fact, I remember when the news first broke - not that long after the mission.

I read this book almost 20 years ago -


Philip-38q0d

26 posts

111 months

Sunday 14th September
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Great book. Dave Scott is the only Apollo commander still alive :-(

Porsche-worm

302 posts

28 months

Thursday 18th September
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We didn't go to the moon.

Still can’t do it now, yet alone then.


lancslad58

1,507 posts

26 months

Friday 19th September
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Porsche-worm said:
We didn't go to the moon.

Still can t do it now, yet alone then.
Thank you for your contribution to this thread, most helpful and welcome. Perhaps you'd like to start your own thread, something like "I'm an idiot whose had too much to drink again "

Eric Mc

124,173 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September
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lancslad58 said:
Thank you for your contribution to this thread, most helpful and welcome. Perhaps you'd like to start your own thread, something like "I'm an idiot whose had too much to drink again "
He's obviously a newcomer in these here parts.

That debate ran its course on PH around ten years ago.

Simpo Two

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Friday 19th September
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Porsche-worm said:
We didn't go to the moon.

Still can t do it now, yet alone then.
We can't fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2 either, so by your 'logic' Concorde didn't exist. The examples in museums are just mock-ups designed to fool the gullible, as I'm sure your mighty powers of deduction have already calculated.

On the plus side, if you tell your story to Buzz Aldrin, who I had the honour of meeting a few years ago, he won't debate. He'll just punch you in the face.

lancslad58

1,507 posts

26 months

Friday 19th September
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Not Apollo 15 but from BBC sounds "13 Minutes Presents : The Space Shuttle" this episode covers the Challenger tragedy.
"We turn back the clock to a meeting the day before the launch which might have changed everything"


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct80br

Eric Mc

124,173 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September
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lancslad58 said:
Not Apollo 15 but from BBC sounds "13 Minutes Presents : The Space Shuttle" this episode covers the Challenger tragedy.
"We turn back the clock to a meeting the day before the launch which might have changed everything"


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct80br
Best to keep Shuttle discussions on one of the Shuttle discusion threads - of which there is at least one.

On the subject of Apollo 15, I remember watching it all live on TV at the time. The area they went to on the moon was simply stunning - the foothills of Mount Hadley - and they visited Hadley Rille - an enormous gash in the moon's surface. Also, from a PHer's point of view, they were the first to bring the Lunar Rover Vehicle, which was amazing in its own right.










Peterpetrole

1,070 posts

15 months

Friday 19th September
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Simpo Two said:
I bet even Eric didn't know this...

'In June 1972, a scandal involving the crew of NASA's Apollo 15 became publicly known'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_15_postal_cov...
Compared to modern scandals seems quite quaint

Simpo Two

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Friday 19th September
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Peterpetrole said:
Compared to modern scandals seems quite quaint
You're right. Today it would be crypto fraud and a photo with Jeffrey Epstein.

Eric Mc

124,173 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September
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Sadly, the three astronauts involved never got assigned to any more flights and they all left NASA soon afterwards. Dave Scott was a key person in the setting up of the joint Apollo/Soyuz jointt flight (ASTP) in 1975 but he had already left NASA by the time the mission actually flew.

What Scott and his colleagues had done was not unheard of amongst other NASA astronauts before. However, the difference was it was 1972/73, and the US press was getting its teeth into government corruption and skullduggery - mainly due to the emerging investigations into the Watergate scandal. So all government projects and activities came under much closer scrutiny than had been the norm previously.

Porsche-worm

302 posts

28 months

Friday 19th September
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Simpo Two said:
Porsche-worm said:
We didn't go to the moon.

Still can t do it now, yet alone then.
We can't fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2 either, so by your 'logic' Concorde didn't exist. The examples in museums are just mock-ups designed to fool the gullible, as I'm sure your mighty powers of deduction have already calculated.

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No we could fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2, we just don't as it isn't financially viable, although we do fly at these speeds and higher all the time in fighter jets, the F22 does Mach 2 and above and a Mig 25 will do Mach 3.2.

Also I'm pretty certain we still have all the plans and blueprints for Concorde intact as they didn't mysteriously get deleted or destroyed, there is also live footage of Concorde available for digital inspection, pretty sure the only moon footage is taken from a projected source so not able to be digital inspected for alterations or authentication.

There are more holes in the moon landing story than there would be in the moon were it really made of cheese.

generationx

8,576 posts

123 months

Friday 19th September
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Porsche-worm said:
Simpo Two said:
Porsche-worm said:
We didn't go to the moon.

Still can t do it now, yet alone then.
We can't fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2 either, so by your 'logic' Concorde didn't exist. The examples in museums are just mock-ups designed to fool the gullible, as I'm sure your mighty powers of deduction have already calculated.

.
No we could fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2, we just don't as it isn't financially viable, although we do fly at these speeds and higher all the time in fighter jets, the F22 does Mach 2 and above and a Mig 25 will do Mach 3.2.

Also I'm pretty certain we still have all the plans and blueprints for Concorde intact as they didn't mysteriously get deleted or destroyed, there is also live footage of Concorde available for digital inspection, pretty sure the only moon footage is taken from a projected source so not able to be digital inspected for alterations or authentication.

There are more holes in the moon landing story than there would be in the moon were it really made of cheese.
We should stop feeding the (obvious) troll.

The previously - referenced books are excellent by the way, part of my modest, cherished Apollo library.

generationx

8,576 posts

123 months

Friday 19th September
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Eric Mc said:
Sadly, the three astronauts involved never got assigned to any more flights and they all left NASA soon afterwards. Dave Scott was a key person in the setting up of the joint Apollo/Soyuz jointt flight (ASTP) in 1975 but he had already left NASA by the time the mission actually flew.

What Scott and his colleagues had done was not unheard of amongst other NASA astronauts before. However, the difference was it was 1972/73, and the US press was getting its teeth into government corruption and skullduggery - mainly due to the emerging investigations into the Watergate scandal. So all government projects and activities came under much closer scrutiny than had been the norm previously.
And here’s my photo of the Apollo-Soyuz capsule taken in California about three years ago cool I haven’t seen ‘15 but it’s on the list….


Stick Legs

7,845 posts

183 months

Friday 19th September
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generationx said:
Porsche-worm said:
Simpo Two said:
Porsche-worm said:
We didn't go to the moon.

Still can t do it now, yet alone then.
We can't fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2 either, so by your 'logic' Concorde didn't exist. The examples in museums are just mock-ups designed to fool the gullible, as I'm sure your mighty powers of deduction have already calculated.

.
No we could fly passengers across the Atlantic at Mach 2, we just don't as it isn't financially viable, although we do fly at these speeds and higher all the time in fighter jets, the F22 does Mach 2 and above and a Mig 25 will do Mach 3.2.

Also I'm pretty certain we still have all the plans and blueprints for Concorde intact as they didn't mysteriously get deleted or destroyed, there is also live footage of Concorde available for digital inspection, pretty sure the only moon footage is taken from a projected source so not able to be digital inspected for alterations or authentication.

There are more holes in the moon landing story than there would be in the moon were it really made of cheese.
We should stop feeding the (obvious) troll.

The previously - referenced books are excellent by the way, part of my modest, cherished Apollo library.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings

I use moon landing denial as a way to filter people I never want to see again. biglaugh

Simpo Two

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89,805 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September
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It's sad that it even needs a Wiki page.

I'm working on a theory that the Battle of Trafalgar never happened. There are no photos of it, just a few stories which have more holes in them than the Allied fleet did!