Speeding on the Motorway
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Hi all. My wife has just receive a NIP for travelling at 79mph in a 70mph limit on the M6.
I was under the impression that the threshold was 10% +2, which would make it 79mph as within the threshold?
She has already completed a Speed awareness course (non-motorway) within the last 3 years, so are Motorway Speed Awareness courses different?
Many thanks.
I was under the impression that the threshold was 10% +2, which would make it 79mph as within the threshold?
She has already completed a Speed awareness course (non-motorway) within the last 3 years, so are Motorway Speed Awareness courses different?
Many thanks.
UK_Scat_Pack said:
Hi all. My wife has just receive a NIP for travelling at 79mph in a 70mph limit on the M6.
I was under the impression that the threshold was 10% +2, which would make it 79mph as within the threshold?
She has already completed a Speed awareness course (non-motorway) within the last 3 years, so are Motorway Speed Awareness courses different?
Many thanks.
The threshold for enforcement action is 10%+2, the limit of no action is 10%+1I was under the impression that the threshold was 10% +2, which would make it 79mph as within the threshold?
She has already completed a Speed awareness course (non-motorway) within the last 3 years, so are Motorway Speed Awareness courses different?
Many thanks.
Motorway courses are different, but I think they are only for speeding in the variable limit zone where a variable limit was in force.
I suspect its a 3 pointer for yer wife.
Enforcement threshold is 10% + 2 so with NSL in force 79 mph is fair game.
Yes Motorway Awareness Courses are separate from Speed Awareness Courses and both can be taken within any time period without being given points. But MAC is only for exceeding reduced limit and other transgressions, driving on hard shoulder, etc.
Yes Motorway Awareness Courses are separate from Speed Awareness Courses and both can be taken within any time period without being given points. But MAC is only for exceeding reduced limit and other transgressions, driving on hard shoulder, etc.
Edited by speedking31 on Thursday 11th September 13:55
speedking31 said:
Enforcement threshold is 10% + 2 so with NSL in force 79 mph is fair game.
Yes Motorway Awareness Courses are separate from Speed Awareness Courses and both can be taken within any time period without being given points. But MAC is only for exceeding reduced limit and other transgressions, driving on hard shoulder, etc.
As pointed out above. 10% +2 is where the fines start not the fastest you can "get away with"Yes Motorway Awareness Courses are separate from Speed Awareness Courses and both can be taken within any time period without being given points. But MAC is only for exceeding reduced limit and other transgressions, driving on hard shoulder, etc.
Edited by speedking31 on Thursday 11th September 13:55
As above, you have misread that 10% + 2 mph is the "start of enforcement" which aren't all fines, 10% + 1 mph is within the accepted region and is not normally acted upon unless there are extenuating circumstances I believe.
There are such things as motorway awareness courses but not all forces do them.
There are such things as motorway awareness courses but not all forces do them.
E-bmw said:
There are such things as motorway awareness courses but not all forces do them.
NMAC is part of the NDORS scheme so I imagine that any forces not offering them would be in the minority.https://www.ukroed.org.uk/courses/
UK_Scat_Pack said:
Thanks for the replies so far. Very helpful.
So it looks like 3 points for my wife then sadly. Worried about how this might affect her insurance as she s only had her UK licence for 2 years.
probably wont affect insurance that much, however as she is still in her "probationary" period of 2 years, may be worth asking her to stick to the limits for a while as another 3 points will see her off the roadSo it looks like 3 points for my wife then sadly. Worried about how this might affect her insurance as she s only had her UK licence for 2 years.
STe_rsv4 said:
probably wont affect insurance that much, however as she is still in her "probationary" period of 2 years, may be worth asking her to stick to the limits for a while as another 3 points will see her off the road
She’s not a new driver. She’s been driving for 18 years. She just swapped over her previous countries licence for a UK one around 2 years ago.BertBert said:
NMAC is part of the NDORS scheme so I imagine that any forces not offering them would be in the minority.
https://www.ukroed.org.uk/courses/
Just as others have mentioned above, the link shows the Motorway Speed Awareness courses are not offered for breaking the national Motorway speed limit, sadly. https://www.ukroed.org.uk/courses/
Edited by UK_Scat_Pack on Thursday 11th September 15:27
UK_Scat_Pack said:
STe_rsv4 said:
probably wont affect insurance that much, however as she is still in her "probationary" period of 2 years, may be worth asking her to stick to the limits for a while as another 3 points will see her off the road
She s not a new driver. She s been driving for 18 years. She just swapped over her previous countries licence for a UK one around 2 years ago.I run my speed limiter at 80mph so am JUST under the penalty level. As said here too, her speedo was probably up at 85mph.
GPS is accurate BUT it only works if it has a signal which is why it's not something that replaces conventional measurement tools.
Frimley111R said:
Half the driving population has points these days. I have 6 and even then the insurance company didn't seem bothered.
I run my speed limiter at 80mph so am JUST under the penalty level. As said here too, her speedo was probably up at 85mph.
GPS is accurate BUT it only works if it has a signal which is why it's not something that replaces conventional measurement tools.
Same here. on motorways or dual carriageways I'm not familiar with, I'm careful to stay just above the limit if in a hurry or at the limit if not. Its too easy just to wind it up a bit more then get caught out by the sneaky twunts hiding in a bush. I run my speed limiter at 80mph so am JUST under the penalty level. As said here too, her speedo was probably up at 85mph.
GPS is accurate BUT it only works if it has a signal which is why it's not something that replaces conventional measurement tools.
Frimley111R said:
Half the driving population has points these days. I have 6 and even then the insurance company didn't seem bothered.
I run my speed limiter at 80mph so am JUST under the penalty level. As said here too, her speedo was probably up at 85mph.
GPS is accurate BUT it only works if it has a signal which is why it's not something that replaces conventional measurement tools.
I always sit the cruise control 1mph under the limit just to be sure. I don t always trust technology. They do say these new GPS Nav Speedos, like in our car, are very accurate (more so than traditional speedos). I run my speed limiter at 80mph so am JUST under the penalty level. As said here too, her speedo was probably up at 85mph.
GPS is accurate BUT it only works if it has a signal which is why it's not something that replaces conventional measurement tools.
Just a shame she s let her speed creep up as she normally rigidly sticks to the speed limit.
I have to say it’s the first time I’ve heard of these fixed cameras penalising for exceed the regular speed limit and not the variable motorway speed limits! Maybe I ve been leading a sheltered life!
Will keep an eye on my own speed on the motorway in future too!
Edited by UK_Scat_Pack on Thursday 11th September 15:54
UK_Scat_Pack said:
...Just a shame she s let her speed creep up as she normally rigidly sticks to the speed limit....
She's been caught twice in the last 3 years.UK_Scat_Pack said:
She has already completed a Speed awareness course (non-motorway) within the last 3 years, so are Motorway Speed Awareness courses different?
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