Average speed camera and enforced limit
Average speed camera and enforced limit
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Nibbles_bits

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1,791 posts

56 months

Yesterday (17:15)
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This might have been answered before -

We all know that for static speed cameras there's normally a threshold before a) activation and b) enforcement.

What's the threshold for average speed cameras?

Terminator X

18,101 posts

221 months

Yesterday (17:19)
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I drive at 55 on the speedo through 50 average limits. Never had a ticket.

TX.

paradigital

1,044 posts

169 months

Yesterday (17:25)
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The thresholds for prosecution surely don’t change based on method of measurement?

Nibbles_bits

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

56 months

Yesterday (17:39)
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Terminator X said:
I drive at 55 on the speedo through 50 average limits. Never had a ticket.

TX.
That would suggest that you're only just, if at all, over the 50mph.

Nibbles_bits

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

56 months

Yesterday (17:41)
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paradigital said:
The thresholds for prosecution surely don t change based on method of measurement?
I wouldn't have thought so.

I ask because I don't think I've heard anyone say what speed they got prosecuted for in an average speed check.

Mandat

4,306 posts

255 months

Yesterday (17:46)
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I always try to keep my average speed to within 10% above the prevailing limit, on the basis of the 10%+2 threshold.

It is surprising how much faster you are able to go than surrounding traffic, and still maintain your average speed within the threshold.

BertBert

20,472 posts

228 months

Yesterday (18:03)
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I'm generally around the 110% as per Google Maps reading and not got a ticket yet.

E-bmw

11,281 posts

169 months

Yesterday (18:46)
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paradigital said:
The thresholds for prosecution surely don t change based on method of measurement?
^^^^ Wot 'e said, no different.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,321 posts

252 months

Yesterday (18:55)
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I drive the Grantham to Woolsthorpe leg of the A1 every other week on average. It has average speed cameras & has had for a while.

I do 60 mph in my Ranger & I'm amazed how many Transits etc come by at 70+ mph. Do these cameras (or fixed speed cameras) not compare your speed to a class of vehicle database?




Terminator X

18,101 posts

221 months

Yesterday (18:58)
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Nibbles_bits said:
Terminator X said:
I drive at 55 on the speedo through 50 average limits. Never had a ticket.

TX.
That would suggest that you're only just, if at all, over the 50mph.
Lol you try it at 60 and let me know.

TX.

Nibbles_bits

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

56 months

Yesterday (19:04)
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Terminator X said:
Nibbles_bits said:
Terminator X said:
I drive at 55 on the speedo through 50 average limits. Never had a ticket.

TX.
That would suggest that you're only just, if at all, over the 50mph.
Lol you try it at 60 and let me know.

TX.
If your speedo reads 60 then you're definitely going to be doing more than 50mph.

My CTS used to over read by 10%

Origami

188 posts

2 months

Yesterday (19:09)
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By law, speedos cars over read by up to 10% but never under read.

Most low volume manufacturers who lack the QA to be certain therefore by default set their cars to +10% while bigger companies might be much closer to the true reading. My KIA for example is spot on.

The only way to be sure is to check against a GPS speedo (those apps in on your phone are actually pretty good provided you keep a steady speed on the level)

I know this because I asked the service dept for my low volume car to set it closer to the accurate figure and they refused, giving this explanation. They insisted on leaving it 10% over.

BertBert

20,472 posts

228 months

Yesterday (20:25)
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Nibbles_bits said:
If your speedo reads 60 then you're definitely going to be doing more than 50mph.

My CTS used to over read by 10%
But are you going to be doing more than 56mph?

Nibbles_bits

Original Poster:

1,791 posts

56 months

Yesterday (20:32)
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BertBert said:
Nibbles_bits said:
If your speedo reads 60 then you're definitely going to be doing more than 50mph.

My CTS used to over read by 10%
But are you going to be doing more than 56mph?
That would depend on how much your car over reads by.

If it over reads by 6.67% then you're ok

Edited by Nibbles_bits on Wednesday 10th September 20:37

Origami

188 posts

2 months

Yesterday (20:39)
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On my car the Sat Nav recognises you are entering an average speed zone check and displays your rolling average speed in a pop-up alert.

It's interesting how quickly your average drops when you drop only a little below the limit, but at least you know accurately your average for the speed check zone.

TheDrownedApe

1,464 posts

73 months

Yesterday (20:45)
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Origami said:
On my car the Sat Nav recognises you are entering an average speed zone check and displays your rolling average speed in a pop-up alert.

It's interesting how quickly your average drops when you drop only a little below the limit, but at least you know accurately your average for the speed check zone.
Wow, what car please?

5s Alive

2,505 posts

51 months

Yesterday (21:31)
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Some very ordinary cars have this.

2022 Hyundai Kona.


Dave _

127 posts

136 months

Yesterday (21:32)
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TheDrownedApe said:
Wow, what car please?
The TomTom app does.

https://download.tomtom.com/open/manuals/TomTom_Sp...

TomTom said:
In addition to the standard speed camera warnings, you also see the following information:

Your average speed is calculated and shown.
Note: It is possible for your current speed to be over the limit and your average speed to be under the limit or vice versa.

The distance to the end of the average speed zone is shown with your average speed.
At the end of the zone, you hear a two-chime warning sound and you can see your final average speed.

Origami

188 posts

2 months

Yesterday (22:55)
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TheDrownedApe said:
Origami said:
On my car the Sat Nav recognises you are entering an average speed zone check and displays your rolling average speed in a pop-up alert.

It's interesting how quickly your average drops when you drop only a little below the limit, but at least you know accurately your average for the speed check zone.
Wow, what car please?
KIA EV6 GT (you need to watch your right foot with nearly 600bhp hehe)

anyoldcardave

881 posts

84 months

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I drive the Grantham to Woolsthorpe leg of the A1 every other week on average. It has average speed cameras & has had for a while.

I do 60 mph in my Ranger & I'm amazed how many Transits etc come by at 70+ mph. Do these cameras (or fixed speed cameras) not compare your speed to a class of vehicle database?
Not that I know of and not had any in the post from the 3.5 tonne.

I set the cruise at 57 in a 50, GPS says 55, every vehicle reads a little over these days, never had one in the post and I am on them 6 days a week.

Got flashed twice in the early hours with the cruise on 85 in a Connect Tourneo, in the variable zones with no limit showing, never heard anything.