Lorry drivers stopping really close
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I am still fizzing , We were in a queue and a wagon pushed in behind us and every time we moved it came really close to our car and was really pissing me off as if he hit us we would have had the hassle of getting it sorted etc. (another coat of paint on the wagon he would have been in the boot with us )
Why in the hell do they do this as it really annoys me , do they not understand if the car in front broke down they wouldn't be able to get by without reversing.
Sorry rant over .
Why in the hell do they do this as it really annoys me , do they not understand if the car in front broke down they wouldn't be able to get by without reversing.
Sorry rant over .
Killer2005 said:
It was behind you in traffic, what's the issue?
The issue is that the lorry was apparently pulling up very close to OP. The issue is that the lorry driver isn't leaving much error for margin, which while is the lorry driver's responsibility to manage, will be the OP's problem if the lorry were to misjudge their small margin and collide with OP. It sounds like the lorry driver drives like that as a habit. It can be somewhat unnerving having an HGV filling your rearview mirror, especially if you're carrying young children in the car. In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique.
Muddle238 said:
Killer2005 said:
It was behind you in traffic, what's the issue?
The issue is that the lorry was apparently pulling up very close to OP. The issue is that the lorry driver isn't leaving much error for margin, which while is the lorry driver's responsibility to manage, will be the OP's problem if the lorry were to misjudge their small margin and collide with OP. It sounds like the lorry driver drives like that as a habit. It can be somewhat unnerving having an HGV filling your rearview mirror, especially if you're carrying young children in the car. In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique. [/quoted]
Agreed I always use the tyre and tarmac rule. However I think HGV drivers are used to following closely to slipstream for fuel efficiency. They also hate vehicles slipping into a small gap left because it takes awhile to gain back momentum when their rhythm is broken e.g sudden braking, shift down, slow acceleration then climbing back up through the gearing which is a much bigger effort than a car driver.
Have come to conclusion that some are just a
holes. Nipped into the supermarket, noticed a 7.5 tonner driving round the car park. Before got out phone rang, by time call finished the prick had decided to stop parked at 90 degrees across several parking spaces. Front of cab in next space to me right by my door. No trouble getting out, I'm not THAT fat, but exiting the space was a pain, no vision to right, just had to edge, edge, edge, lean right forward, edge a bit more as folks come pissing in down that lane.
Git.
holes. Nipped into the supermarket, noticed a 7.5 tonner driving round the car park. Before got out phone rang, by time call finished the prick had decided to stop parked at 90 degrees across several parking spaces. Front of cab in next space to me right by my door. No trouble getting out, I'm not THAT fat, but exiting the space was a pain, no vision to right, just had to edge, edge, edge, lean right forward, edge a bit more as folks come pissing in down that lane.Git.
E63eeeeee... said:
Objects in the rear view mirror may appear closer than they are.
This. They always seem close when they stop behind you. This is especially true with trucks, and with their height an width, they fill the rear view. In truth, they are probably no closer than cars that stop behind you, they just seem it. Leave enough gap for yourself in front, enough to be able to drive out of the queue. A further tip: when stopping in a queue after fast traffic, leave enough gap in front until you are sure the vehicle behind is reacting and stopping in time - until then remain in gear with brake lights on, and be prepared to move forward if they are not stopping quickly enough.
Most of us lorryists try our best to be professional and responsible, we don't always get it perfect but we try our best, when a plank drives like a bully/incompetent being in a truck it sticks out like a sore thumb and gets the rest of us a bad name.
Trust me no one detests poor examples of the breed behind the wheel of a truck more than proper lorry drivers.
Trust me no one detests poor examples of the breed behind the wheel of a truck more than proper lorry drivers.
Muddle238 said:
In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique.
How many car lengths would be required for the truck driver to be able to use the "tyres & tarmac" rule?Snowflake NO but I would be loads worse if he had hit me .
As above the problem is as stated the lorry driver not anticipating any unforeseen circumstances , eg an emergency vehicle requiring to get through the traffic and the numpty has no room to manoeuvre out the road , (been there and being so close they do not help)
Thanks for the replies , even the sarcastic ones .
As above the problem is as stated the lorry driver not anticipating any unforeseen circumstances , eg an emergency vehicle requiring to get through the traffic and the numpty has no room to manoeuvre out the road , (been there and being so close they do not help)
Thanks for the replies , even the sarcastic ones .
Mandat said:
Muddle238 said:
In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique.
How many car lengths would be required for the truck driver to be able to use the "tyres & tarmac" rule?and31 said:
Mandat said:
Muddle238 said:
In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique.
How many car lengths would be required for the truck driver to be able to use the "tyres & tarmac" rule?and31 said:
Much less than one car length
Sounds like you've never driven a HGV.As a sanity check I've done a quick calculation, and the minimum distance required for a truck driver to see the tyres on a typical car is at least 6.6m. This is based on an average 2.4m eye level for the driver and an average departure angle of 20 degrees.
For the driver to see both tyres & tarmac, the required distance is closer to 7m. For larger trucks, with a higher driver eve level, the required distance is over 8m.
deeen said:
and31 said:
Mandat said:
Muddle238 said:
In stop-start traffic there is no need to be stopping right on the arse of the vehicle in front, I always use a "tyres and tarmac" rule - i.e. I can see a thin slither of tarmac between the bottom of my windscreen and the rear of the vehicle ahead. Doesn't sound as if the HGV driver was employing such a technique.
How many car lengths would be required for the truck driver to be able to use the "tyres & tarmac" rule?Nine or ten feet is more than enough for any lorry to get around a broken down vehicle infront if required .like I said, much less than a car length
Edited by and31 on Saturday 6th September 23:30
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