LG TV Problem
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bad company

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20,922 posts

283 months

Sunday 31st August
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I bought an LG OLED tv new in 2021. I now have a problem accessing the apps at the bottom of the screen. I click on any of them but they don’t open though I can still watch through my Freeview box. I rebooted the tv and router which fixed the problem for about an hour, then it returned.

We’re in London today so found the LG representative in Selfridges. He said ‘they all do that after 4-5 years due licensing issues with the apps’. He suggested buying a Firestick and using that.

That sounds weird to me. Any ideas?




Regbuser

5,844 posts

52 months

Sunday 31st August
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Unfortunately, the fire stick is exactly what I had to do.
LG legacy support is s hite.

bitchstewie

60,404 posts

227 months

Sunday 31st August
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Can't comment specifically on the LG element but it might be worth doing a factory reset on the TV?

I always take the view a TV is just a screen so budget in for an Apple TV (or FireStick or whatever) rather than rely on the TV itself for the apps as usually there are just too many compromises.

GregK2

1,719 posts

163 months

Sunday 31st August
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LG rep is a disgrace. I bought mine in 2020 and all apps load fine and I would not be happy if that changed any time soon.

My usual go-to for these type of issues is Reddit, have seen suggestions to check firmware is up to date, holding power button on remote to hard reset and even disabling ipv6. If you have been able to fix the issue even temporarily then it seems something software related.

bigandclever

14,088 posts

255 months

Sunday 31st August
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Update your TV software (mine is currently 23.25.45). Update (or uninstall and install) the apps that are definitely not working from the Content store (for example BBC iPlayer has just forced me to update before it would load). See what transpires.

I tend to just use a Firestick.

bad company

Original Poster:

20,922 posts

283 months

Sunday 31st August
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Thanks for the help guys. I’ve rebooted everything and at the moment it’s working. I wouldn’t be surprised if it failed again though.

I updated the tv’s software last Friday, it’s showing software version 04.63.20. There are no more updates available.

Edited by bad company on Sunday 31st August 20:24

FuzzyLogic

1,655 posts

255 months

Thursday 4th September
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It’s worth checking the LG website for firmware updates for your model. Mine stopped doing auto updates a few months back and it was after a firmware update so I assume they broke it.

Downloaded the latest version from the website and installed it from USB - problem solved

smithyithy

7,716 posts

135 months

Tuesday 9th September
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I've had 2 Samsungs that have done the same. 3-4 years and the 'smart' TVs become 'dumb' TVs. No amount of resets, software updates etc has helped. Online guides / support / forum articles explaining how to fix the issues are usually useless as they refer to settings options that have since been removed entirely through updates.

There may be some truth to the app licensing thing, but my reasonable conspiracy theory IMO is that it's simply planned obsolescence.

From now on I just buy TVs for their screen / specification and ignore the 'smart' aspect as it's much easier to use a Firestick / Chomecast etc and upgrade that every year or two.

bad company

Original Poster:

20,922 posts

283 months

Tuesday 9th September
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smithyithy said:
I've had 2 Samsungs that have done the same. 3-4 years and the 'smart' TVs become 'dumb' TVs. No amount of resets, software updates etc has helped. Online guides / support / forum articles explaining how to fix the issues are usually useless as they refer to settings options that have since been removed entirely through updates.

There may be some truth to the app licensing thing, but my reasonable conspiracy theory IMO is that it's simply planned obsolescence.

From now on I just buy TVs for their screen / specification and ignore the 'smart' aspect as it's much easier to use a Firestick / Chomecast etc and upgrade that every year or two.
Sadly I think you’re probably right. I rebooted and got my tv working properly again and now away on holiday so it could be ok. If not I’ll buy a Firestick rather than replace the tv.

dontlookdown

2,236 posts

110 months

Tuesday 9th September
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In my experience, 'smart' TVs get gradually dumber (ie slow and glitchy) over the course of 3 or 4 yrs, even if you do all the updates etc. The simplest thing to do once they become more or less unusably glitchy is to get a fire stick.

Dave Hedgehog

15,342 posts

221 months

Tuesday 9th September
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never used mine, disabled wifi connection after an hour of popup adverts and spam and bought an apple TV, never looked back

bad company

Original Poster:

20,922 posts

283 months

Tuesday 9th September
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Dave Hedgehog said:
never used mine, disabled wifi connection after an hour of popup adverts and spam and bought an apple TV, never looked back
We don’t get any of that other than the advertising of whatever tv station.

The Gauge

5,360 posts

30 months

Tuesday 9th September
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smithyithy said:
I've had 2 Samsungs that have done the same. 3-4 years and the 'smart' TVs become 'dumb' TVs. No amount of resets, software updates etc has helped. Online guides / support / forum articles explaining how to fix the issues are usually useless as they refer to settings options that have since been removed entirely through updates.

There may be some truth to the app licensing thing, but my reasonable conspiracy theory IMO is that it's simply planned obsolescence.

From now on I just buy TVs for their screen / specification and ignore the 'smart' aspect as it's much easier to use a Firestick / Chomecast etc and upgrade that every year or two.
Am I right in saying though that the TV's native apps can give a better picture or audio than the same app on something like a Firestick?

Griffith4ever

5,838 posts

52 months

Wednesday 10th September
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which apps didn't work? I've a 2018 OLED B series OLED and it all still works fine. As far as I know...

RotorRambler

480 posts

7 months

Wednesday 10th September
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Dave Hedgehog said:
never used mine, disabled wifi connection after an hour of popup adverts and spam and bought an apple TV, never looked back
There are some settings to turn off ads, other brands have similar. It s an annoyance that on by default..
My LG is over 5 years old and the apps work fine, hopefully the OPs one will be fine after the reboot etc.

I did recently buy another LG tv though for bedroom, Apple Tv app wouldn t work. After wasting an hour of my life with support (they told me to contact Apple!) It works on the old one. I sent it back and got a Samsung from John Lewis (5 year guarantee free)

smithyithy

7,716 posts

135 months

Wednesday 10th September
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The Gauge said:
Am I right in saying though that the TV's native apps can give a better picture or audio than the same app on something like a Firestick?
I'm honestly not sure - it could maybe be possible in some cases (or if the manufacturer has deliberately made it that way), but the external devices themselves should be more than capable, they connect via HDMI and are all designed to stream 4K content, so they should in theory all use the same versions of the apps

Griffith4ever

5,838 posts

52 months

Wednesday 10th September
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smithyithy said:
The Gauge said:
Am I right in saying though that the TV's native apps can give a better picture or audio than the same app on something like a Firestick?
I'm honestly not sure - it could maybe be possible in some cases (or if the manufacturer has deliberately made it that way), but the external devices themselves should be more than capable, they connect via HDMI and are all designed to stream 4K content, so they should in theory all use the same versions of the apps
No, 4k is 4k, 1080p is 1080p, DD is DD, DTX is DTX. The inbuilt apps are the same as the ones on a Fire stick/Roku etc.

I use TV apps and Youview for the same content, and its identical. As is stuff on my Nvidia Shield (same apps again).

The only time you'll notice a difference (other than different image defaults in different devices) is if your setop box doesn't support 4k, for example, when your TV app does. This used ot be the case with my Youview box till I upgraded. I used TV app (LG) for 4k iplayer, and Youview for everything 1080p

SP_

2,981 posts

122 months

Wednesday 10th September
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Griffith4ever said:
smithyithy said:
The Gauge said:
Am I right in saying though that the TV's native apps can give a better picture or audio than the same app on something like a Firestick?
I'm honestly not sure - it could maybe be possible in some cases (or if the manufacturer has deliberately made it that way), but the external devices themselves should be more than capable, they connect via HDMI and are all designed to stream 4K content, so they should in theory all use the same versions of the apps
No, 4k is 4k, 1080p is 1080p, DD is DD, DTX is DTX. The inbuilt apps are the same as the ones on a Fire stick/Roku etc.

I use TV apps and Youview for the same content, and its identical. As is stuff on my Nvidia Shield (same apps again).

The only time you'll notice a difference (other than different image defaults in different devices) is if your setop box doesn't support 4k, for example, when your TV app does. This used ot be the case with my Youview box till I upgraded. I used TV app (LG) for 4k iplayer, and Youview for everything 1080p
Not really true, some sticks may not support dolby vision, HDR etc, whereas TVs can

Griffith4ever

5,838 posts

52 months

Thursday 11th September
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SP_ said:
Griffith4ever said:
smithyithy said:
The Gauge said:
Am I right in saying though that the TV's native apps can give a better picture or audio than the same app on something like a Firestick?
I'm honestly not sure - it could maybe be possible in some cases (or if the manufacturer has deliberately made it that way), but the external devices themselves should be more than capable, they connect via HDMI and are all designed to stream 4K content, so they should in theory all use the same versions of the apps
No, 4k is 4k, 1080p is 1080p, DD is DD, DTX is DTX. The inbuilt apps are the same as the ones on a Fire stick/Roku etc.

I use TV apps and Youview for the same content, and its identical. As is stuff on my Nvidia Shield (same apps again).

The only time you'll notice a difference (other than different image defaults in different devices) is if your setop box doesn't support 4k, for example, when your TV app does. This used ot be the case with my Youview box till I upgraded. I used TV app (LG) for 4k iplayer, and Youview for everything 1080p
Not really true, some sticks may not support dolby vision, HDR etc, whereas TVs can
Indeed - as I spelt out, my old youview didn't have the features my TV did - that was video, but the same applies to audio.

The poster was implying that the apps were of a lesser quality - perhaps purposefully - they are the same apps. What your device supports is another matter altogether (codecs resolutions and HDR).

smithyithy

7,716 posts

135 months

Thursday 11th September
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There was the case in the past where Netflix (I think it was) was lower resolution on PC / desktop than via the Windows App, or something like that...

Probably fixed now but it was a bit of a PITA as the app was quite buggy at the time.