2006 Vauxhall Monaro
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Pa Bear

Original Poster:

5 posts

35 months

nismo48

5,505 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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Nice old classic, but some serious corrosion going on under the bonnet and particularly underneath.
Recommissioned mechanically is one thing, but structurally it's hardly surface rust.

Sixsixtysix

2,800 posts

183 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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Lovely car but it looks like it's been parked in the sea.

When you look at the photo's, these statements can't be correct:

No signs of any corrosion or prior accident damage

Underside was stripped, cleaned and re-undersealed in 2022 during recommissioning process; never welded

Syndrome280

290 posts

128 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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Sixsixtysix said:
Lovely car but it looks like it's been parked in the sea.

When you look at the photo's, these statements can't be correct:

No signs of any corrosion or prior accident damage

Underside was stripped, cleaned and re-undersealed in 2022 during recommissioning process; never welded
Agree completely. Lovely car but has obviously been neglected and then 'recommissioned' to look good from 10 paces.

You have jacking areas that are heavily corroded and look like they're delaminating:





...and if this has been stripped an re-undersealed in 2022 I assume it was with Maldon's sea-salt flakes:


No signs of corrosion? From the MOT history it looks like its been bubbling since 2009, which unsurprisingly that MOT is missing from the documents shown:

Date tested
4 December 2009
PASS
Mileage
20,124 miles
Test location
View test location
MOT test number
3733 4883 9356
Expiry date
11 December 2010
Advisory notice item(s)
UDERSIDE OF CAR SALT RUST CORROSION EVIDENT...
REAR SHOCKS CORROSION.
FRONT AND REAR DISCS LIGHT CORROSION.
FRONT AND REAR SUSPENSION ITEMS SURFACE CORROSION.
BRAKE PIPES ON ALL 4 CALIPERS RUST CORROSION..
BRAKE FERRULES ON ALL 4 FLEXI HOSES RUST CORROSION...
EXHAUST RUST CORROSION ALL OVER....FRONT TO REAR....
SLIGHT OIL TRACES DROPPING OVER REAR OF ENGINE OVER GEARBOX AREA...
OIL OVER STEERING RACK GAITOR O/S/F...
PAS HOSES METAL PIPES RUST CORROSION,,ALL PIPES...
VERY SLIGHT BRAKE FLUCTUATION FRONT DISCS...

Edited by Syndrome280 on Tuesday 2nd September 13:22

nismo48

5,505 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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It's hardly as described, which is a shame. Auctions are fickle things and this car is no exception.
Nineteen years of steady corrosion with added salty air for good measure.
One owner and low mileage doesn't always mean a good buy.

selondonman

201 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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was this car water damaged ??

why is there so much rust ?

the engine bay is a disaster

selondonman

201 posts

224 months

Wednesday
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the description of this car is misleading

shame on pistonheads

dave_white1977

99 posts

16 months

CONSIGNER

Thursday
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Hi all Dave here consigner of this car. A few of you have rightly pointed out that the description on this auction included the line “no signs of corrosion”, which was an error on our part. That was a significant oversight, and we apologise for this.
That said, we want to be clear:
The car was listed with a large volume of detailed photos that clearly show the condition, including the rust spots.
We have set a reserve that reflects this condition, which is significantly below the figure of over £30,000 that a comparable example achieved at auction recently.
Our auctions are designed to give buyers full transparency and the ability to make their own informed assessment before placing a bid.
We really value the community keeping us honest, and constructive feedback is always welcome.
As always, we encourage anyone interested in bidding to study the photos carefully and bid accordingly.
Thanks again for the passion and scrutiny it’s what makes this community so strong.
Dave

_ppan

634 posts

86 months

Thursday
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dave_white1977 said:
Hi all Dave here consigner of this car. A few of you have rightly pointed out that the description on this auction included the line “no signs of corrosion”, which was an error on our part. That was a significant oversight, and we apologise for this.
That said, we want to be clear:
The car was listed with a large volume of detailed photos that clearly show the condition, including the rust spots.
Not being the intention to mislead is likely, otherwise those pictures wouldn't be posted imho.

Edited by _ppan on Thursday 4th September 19:47

Syndrome280

290 posts

128 months

Thursday
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Even with the edits I’m not sure I’d market it as ‘amazing condition’… well, I would but not for reasons that are a good selling point.

rix

2,883 posts

207 months

Thursday
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I missed out on one of these in around 2012ish. Sold to a dealer virtually under my nose, I think for about 14k.... The big bit and I ended up with a non SC'd LS2 car which had been fitted with lots of tasty monkfish upgrades. Kept it for a few years, a lot for me, and definately counts as the most charismatic car I've owned - that noise and old school feels is pretty much unapproachable in anything since...

selondonman

201 posts

224 months

Mechanicals:

Completely recommissioned and subject to a careful mechanical overhaul between 2022 and 2024

look at the engine bay .. definitely not recommissioned or had a careful mechanical overhaul

just explain that the car needs a lot of work but the reserve reflects that

selondonman

201 posts

224 months

dave_white1977 said:
Hi all Dave here consigner of this car. A few of you have rightly pointed out that the description on this auction included the line “no signs of corrosion”, which was an error on our part. That was a significant oversight, and we apologise for this.
That said, we want to be clear:
The car was listed with a large volume of detailed photos that clearly show the condition, including the rust spots.
We have set a reserve that reflects this condition, which is significantly below the figure of over £30,000 that a comparable example achieved at auction recently.
Our auctions are designed to give buyers full transparency and the ability to make their own informed assessment before placing a bid.
We really value the community keeping us honest, and constructive feedback is always welcome.
As always, we encourage anyone interested in bidding to study the photos carefully and bid accordingly.
Thanks again for the passion and scrutiny it’s what makes this community so strong.
Dave
thanks dave, but you are still over exaggerating the condition of this car

stu vxr

280 posts

124 months

Having had a Monaro for 15 years, which was and still is (friends with who I sold too) one of the best low mileage cars in the uk, this car needs a total strip down and rebuild, the corrosion will be well beyond what you can see on the pictures, it will be a costly restoration, but it’s a VXR500 and that’s the only thing that makes it viable for a full restoration value wise, even then though, man maths will have to play a major part, cost to fix will exceed the value of the car if not bought for a knock down price, performance wise my old car was better supercharged by Monkfish, without a intercooler they are not great. Happy bidding all.

Edited by stu vxr on Saturday 6th September 04:19


Edited by stu vxr on Saturday 6th September 10:25

Syndrome280

290 posts

128 months

Yesterday (09:45)
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stu vxr said:
Having had a Monaro for 15 years, which was and still is (friends with who I sold too) one of the best low mileage car in the uk, this car needs a total strip down and rebuild, the corrosion will be well beyond what you can see on the pictures, it will be a costly restoration, but it’s a VXR500 and that’s the only thing that makes it viable for a full restoration value wise, even then though, man maths will have to play a major part, cost to fix will exceed the value of the car if not bought for a knock down price, performance wise my old car was better supercharged by Monkfish, without a intercooler they are not great. Happy bidding all.

Edited by stu vxr on Saturday 6th September 04:19
Genuine question to someone with a good experience of these in SC form, are they meant to smoke as much as this one does from 4:15 onwards when being revved?
https://youtu.be/lX7Mc9yUseo

I’ve only ever seen non-SC LS2 cars running and I don’t recall big puffs of blue smoke when being revved

stu vxr

280 posts

124 months

Yesterday (10:31)
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Syndrome280 said:
Genuine question to someone with a good experience of these in SC form, are they meant to smoke as much as this one does from 4:15 onwards when being revved?
https://youtu.be/lX7Mc9yUseo

I’ve only ever seen non-SC LS2 cars running and I don’t recall big puffs of blue smoke when being revved
No not normal to smoke, but as said you need to be prepared to do a full strip down on this to sort the body work, access will be needed for all cavities, especially the front chassis legs, a lot of people have forged these engines when charged, so I would factor this into my project along with an intercooler, if your not good with the welding I wouldn’t take this on TBH
If you need to see mine and how one should look, check out collecting cars sold section, mine was S600 LOV


Edited by stu vxr on Saturday 6th September 10:39

selondonman

201 posts

224 months

Yesterday (14:37)
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Syndrome280 said:
Genuine question to someone with a good experience of these in SC form, are they meant to smoke as much as this one does from 4:15 onwards when being revved?
https://youtu.be/lX7Mc9yUseo

I’ve only ever seen non-SC LS2 cars running and I don’t recall big puffs of blue smoke when being revved
no !