What am I missing with these crazy frankenwatches?
What am I missing with these crazy frankenwatches?
Author
Discussion

glazbagun

Original Poster:

14,933 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
https://ebay.us/m/WfXfV3

I've saved images of this to my hard drive so will update if the auction expires and anyone cares.

But they basically have a water damaged Milgauss dial attached to an ancient manual ladies movement from a 1960's cocktail watch and hands which don't cross the dial placed in a cheap aftermarket Oyster...ish case and bracelet. And it's sitting at £1700 with 50 bids & 100% feedback? Is this money laundering or are there brain damaged collectors out there with thousands for this kind of thing?

I could understand if it were perhaps a special rare or interesting movement placed in a bespoke case to preserve/display it or some kind of "re-imagined" watch like when Kari Voutalinen did the Calibre 135 Observatoire. But this is like a parts-o-caster of leftover junk going for the price of a new watch.



Edited by glazbagun on Thursday 28th August 06:24

fflump

2,477 posts

55 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
Agree a total abomination where the only thing of any value is the dial assuming genuine. No clue who would bid to these levels or what the attraction is for this type of watch.

HocusPocus

1,587 posts

118 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
Be careful with that judgmental tone...the fake enthusiasts who lurk in the forum will be onto you.

Next thing you know, someone will post they've bought it to try for size, could afford a genuine piece really but couldn't be arsed to be rinsed by an AD, and the fake is indistinguishable from genuine anyway....and it is never about their image. biggrin

Nezquick

1,662 posts

143 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
HocusPocus said:
Be careful with that judgmental tone...the fake enthusiasts who lurk in the forum will be onto you.

Next thing you know, someone will post they've bought it to try for size, could afford a genuine piece really but couldn't be arsed to be rinsed by an AD, and the fake is indistinguishable from genuine anyway....and it is never about their image. biggrin
I posted about VSF and CF Rolex watches on the other thread. This is neither in my opinion, and just a little bit strange. Why anyone would want to spend nearly £2k on a mis-match of random Rolex parts is beyond me.

fflump

2,477 posts

55 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
I'm not sure about the dial either as I have only seen all-orange markers on a white dial Milgauss.

OllyAitch

59 posts

178 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
That’s wild. I’ve seen Frankenwatches go for silly money but usually there’s something of value in there. A ladies cocktail movement in a fake Oyster case at £1700 sounds more like bidders either don’t know what they’re looking at or it’s shady bidding activity.

RustyNissanPrairie

292 posts

12 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
.........yeah but Rolex!

Super Sonic

10,129 posts

71 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
RustyNissanPrairie said:
.........yeah but Rolex!
This.
Rolex are the brand bought by people who want to look wealthy, but know nothing about watches.

Hoofy

78,781 posts

299 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
What's with the tiny hands? biggrin

TGCOTF-dewey

6,644 posts

72 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
Hoofy said:
What's with the tiny hands? biggrin
Can we not have trump.in EVERY thread.

D9

33 posts

8 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
Not my cup of tea , at any price

But , the description is just about honest
( It could be a lot clearer for someone new to watches, but that would probably put them off, and they should do some homework before bidding this sort of money anyway)

No one is being misled , if someone really thinks it's worth that much, then that is up to them.

I see " money laundering" has been mentioned, but none of the usual exaggeration like " organised crime" has been mentioned, which normally comes up when talking about this sort of watch


Bob_Defly

4,869 posts

248 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
HocusPocus said:
Be careful with that judgmental tone...the fake enthusiasts who lurk in the forum will be onto you.

Next thing you know, someone will post they've bought it to try for size, could afford a genuine piece really but couldn't be arsed to be rinsed by an AD, and the fake is indistinguishable from genuine anyway....and it is never about their image. biggrin
hehe

snotrag

15,214 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
Super Sonic said:
RustyNissanPrairie said:
.........yeah but Rolex!
This.
Rolex are the brand bought by people who want to look wealthy, but know nothing about watches.
This will 100% be someone who drives a BMW M Three...Twenty Dee sports model, same as the M3 innit but does 50mpg, with 3 colours of insulation tape on the grille.

The Goat

205 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
HocusPocus said:
Be careful with that judgmental tone...the fake enthusiasts who lurk in the forum will be onto you.

Next thing you know, someone will post they've bought it to try for size, could afford a genuine piece really but couldn't be arsed to be rinsed by an AD, and the fake is indistinguishable from genuine anyway....and it is never about their image. biggrin
rofl

glazbagun

Original Poster:

14,933 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
snotrag said:
Super Sonic said:
RustyNissanPrairie said:
.........yeah but Rolex!
This.
Rolex are the brand bought by people who want to look wealthy, but know nothing about watches.
This will 100% be someone who drives a BMW M Three...Twenty Dee sports model, same as the M3 innit but does 50mpg, with 3 colours of insulation tape on the grille.
Surely such a person just buys a fake or puts a real one on credit. This thing isn't even fake it's just junk.

Looking at it and the painfully accurate description I can only assume it's the person who twenty years ago was buying limited edition Battle of Britain Commemorative Plates from the back of the TV mags but has now discovered Ebay

Hoofy

78,781 posts

299 months

Thursday 28th August
quotequote all
TGCOTF-dewey said:
Hoofy said:
What's with the tiny hands? biggrin
Can we not have trump.in EVERY thread.
hehe Y'know, I was going to mention Trump but I thought I'd leave it.

fflump

2,477 posts

55 months

Friday 29th August
quotequote all
D9 said:
Not my cup of tea , at any price

But , the description is just about honest
( It could be a lot clearer for someone new to watches, but that would probably put them off, and they should do some homework before bidding this sort of money anyway)

No one is being misled , if someone really thinks it's worth that much, then that is up to them.

I see " money laundering" has been mentioned, but none of the usual exaggeration like " organised crime" has been mentioned, which normally comes up when talking about this sort of watch

True it’s an honest description although I still would like to see a genuine Milgauss with this exact dial.

Crudeoink

1,093 posts

76 months

Friday 29th August
quotequote all
I quite like the Seiko frankenwatches,custom milsubs etc. I have a couple as holiday watches as theyre only a few hundred quid so wont be too fussed if they go missing

glazbagun

Original Poster:

14,933 posts

214 months

Friday 29th August
quotequote all
fflump said:
True it’s an honest description although I still would like to see a genuine Milgauss with this exact dial.
Just had a check and you're right. It has the baton colours from a white dial but it's black. It's a combo that never existed. It's either fake or a dial from a GV that for some reason has had eight of its batons replaced.

fflump

2,477 posts

55 months

Friday 29th August
quotequote all
Crudeoink said:
I quite like the Seiko frankenwatches,custom milsubs etc. I have a couple as holiday watches as theyre only a few hundred quid so wont be too fussed if they go missing
You can have a genuine Seiko for that money. Not sure what you mean but "custom" milsub. A euphamism for fake?