Body off refurb
Body off refurb
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baconsarney

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12,193 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th August
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Finally happening this November!

Last full service was 2020, taken off the road a few months after that and not driven since…. I’ll take pics once the body is off and post them here….

She’s been on MS2 since a full engine rebuild in 2011 and I’m wondering if there are other perhaps more user friendly modern aftermarket ecu’s available today scratchchin
Cheers
Richard

Belle427

10,859 posts

250 months

Wednesday 27th August
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Nothing wrong with Megasquirt it's as good as any others.
No need to play with it that much if you get it mapped by someone who knows what they are doing either Dale @ Bailey Performance or Shaun @ MS2 Tuning.
What are your issues with it?

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th August
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Belle427 said:
Nothing wrong with Megasquirt it's as good as any others.
No need to play with it that much if you get it mapped by someone who knows what they are doing either Dale @ Bailey Performance or Shaun @ MS2 Tuning.
What are your issues with it?
No issues, just curious about other possible options.... Shaun installed and mapped it back in 2011 and IIRC mapped it again after some exhaust mods around 2013....

The Three D Mucketeer

6,710 posts

244 months

Wednesday 27th August
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Pleased you've decided not to sell .... Have you thought about Powers Electronic Ignition and new MBE ECU ? ...I keep thinking about it but never seem to have a spare £5k these days smile

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Wednesday 27th August
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
Pleased you've decided not to sell .... Have you thought about Powers Electronic Ignition and new MBE ECU ? ...I keep thinking about it but never seem to have a spare £5k these days smile
Hi Keith it’s a weakness of mine I love buying cars but I’m useless when it comes to letting them go…. I’ll look into the powers and mbe option thank you for that… smile

PabloGee

701 posts

37 months

Friday 29th August
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MS2 was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago for our cars, absolutely no need to change it, the engine itself certainly hasn’t t advanced since you installed it!
Possibly get it mapped again, but possibly a waste of beer tokens if there are other things you’re considering.
As I understand it, the MS2 is a solid base.

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Friday 29th August
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PabloGee said:
MS2 was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago for our cars, absolutely no need to change it, the engine itself certainly hasn’t t advanced since you installed it!
Possibly get it mapped again, but possibly a waste of beer tokens if there are other things you’re considering.
As I understand it, the MS2 is a solid base.
Agreed, won’t be changing it I was simply curious about what else might be out there… last dyno she was just over 360bhp and 350 torque things, plenty for the country roads where I live smile

The Three D Mucketeer

6,710 posts

244 months

Friday 29th August
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I want to get rid of the clockwork bits ... AFM , DIZZY , STEPPER MOTOR etc . I also suspect the newer MBE ECU with a 256 x 256 map will give smoother interpolation of fueling.

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Friday 29th August
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
I want to get rid of the clockwork bits ... AFM , DIZZY , STEPPER MOTOR etc . I also suspect the newer MBE ECU with a 256 x 256 map will give smoother interpolation of fueling.
On the Chimaera presumably Keith?

The Three D Mucketeer

6,710 posts

244 months

Friday 29th August
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baconsarney said:
The Three D Mucketeer said:
I want to get rid of the clockwork bits ... AFM , DIZZY , STEPPER MOTOR etc . I also suspect the newer MBE ECU with a 256 x 256 map will give smoother interpolation of fueling.
On the Chimaera presumably Keith?
Yes ... it would be same as the Tuscan then smile and I could use the same s/w and lead smile

Hasn't Alun ... Classic Chim gone that way ??

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Friday 29th August 20:30

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Friday 29th August
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
Yes ... it would be same as the Tuscan then smile and I could use the same s/w and lead smile

Hasn't Alun ... Classic Chim gone that way ??

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Friday 29th August 20:30
I believe he has… Alun shout

Belle427

10,859 posts

250 months

Saturday 30th August
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Hope he does not mind me chipping in but I believe he sold his car earlier in the year. I wanted to buy it but sadly missed out as my car took too long to sell before i could get to it.
Probably the best 450 out there.

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Saturday 30th August
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Belle427 said:
Hope he does not mind me chipping in but I believe he sold his car earlier in the year. I wanted to buy it but sadly missed out as my car took too long to sell before i could get to it.
Probably the best 450 out there.
Sad news frown

BritishTvr450

513 posts

16 months

Sunday 31st August
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The Three D Mucketeer said:
Yes ... it would be same as the Tuscan then smile and I could use the same s/w and lead smile

Hasn't Alun ... Classic Chim gone that way ??

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Friday 29th August 20:30
Best thing I ever did, that and restoring the chassis.
Years ago now, 2015.

I did around 25k on the MBE and Dom re built engine combo.
Refined gloriousness.
Never missed a beat and went like st off a stick lol.

She’s gone off to a new life in the states.




Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 12:42

BritishTvr450

513 posts

16 months

Sunday 31st August
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Belle427 said:
Hope he does not mind me chipping in but I believe he sold his car earlier in the year. I wanted to buy it but sadly missed out as my car took too long to sell before i could get to it.
Probably the best 450 out there.
Not at all.
Working at many race circuits constantly recently including over 500 miles round Brands Indy circuit in two days in intense heat means I don’t get to clock in and see things on hear as often and yes you missed out on a good old girl.
A nice offer and off she went to a new life in the States.
She had more trick bits than most I can tell you.
One of the most glorious of TVR ownership moments was to spend a day yanking out a slightly knackered diff through drag racing the car ( against my better nature ) and up against my other rather competetive Tvr mates who positively encouraged my racing instincts and in doing so caused me to overly wear my Diff Gear…. There fault! wink
But fortunately a bunch of great mates who happen to be the ones who forced this racing incident to take place offered me his home and ramp so in true TVR fashion I took in an ailing car, flew a new Dif back in because Peter has done it before so helped me with all the tricks and back to my original point and after 7-8 hrs of True TVR frienship and spirit drove out the garage with what felt like a very taught and tight car.
It had transformed the slight slack that comes from the transmission into no play whatsoever.
A car that now had a great engine Ecu and transmission combo that was utterly connected.
Set off the drive on almost zero throttle and potter about down to 900 revs in any gear and no shunt.
A cold snap and then intense snow fall and down to -7 caught me and the car out one night so for fun I thought I’d see how well it fires up, cleared off some snow, peeled the door open gingerly,
And just like clock work started on the button after exactly one engine revelation exactly like it does in 26 degree heat.
A tickle of throttle to 1000 revs and slowly build to 1500 revs ( ticks over at a set 750 via mapping )
Which is just ace.
A few moments later it’s warm enough to drive and ticks over at 750 revs like a clock.
But started as you would expect from a car thats had the best thrown at it.
I had iridium 6 plugs too.
Another great move.
The late 450 engine was a glorious thing if looked after and tickled just a little bit. wink

Took years and attempts before replacing the Dif finally got the car to that point.
The evening I drove it back from Peters was like it had never been before, like I suppose they must have been like when brand new back in the day.

My Dif came from Adrian at Central Tvr who happened to completely re paint my car many years earlier and he gave me a beauty.
Like gold dust to see and possess a Dif with Zero wear.
Great days.




Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 12:31

BritishTvr450

513 posts

16 months

Sunday 31st August
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baconsarney said:
Sad news frown
No it’s ok. It had to happen mate.

I’d taken the car on a long journey of constant upgrading and understanding at the same time as using it almost as a daily for over a decade and taking her to lots of meets and Tvr fun days. a new clutch and bits and bobs but never ever failed on the road. Went to France, pulled a fit french bird :haha: went allover the Uk, did the lot.
Even raced at Hethel with lots of TVR boys and Lotus employees giving admiring glances at the glory of a pit Lane full of Tvr owners and us lot thrashing around making loads of noise.

Or the day a mate came trundling through the paddock at Snetterton with a deep growling ( special intake ) Chim 500 after driving out to get a part for Matt Smith to race on I seem to remember and just the presence of his dark coloured car with its rare dark interior and deep rumble, I remember thinking that’s a powerful car, happened to be yours Rich.
Great days so I think a body lift and tidy up would set your car up for a few decades longer.
Sad to let mine go but I think I set the car up enough to last a long long time yet.






Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 11:58


Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 12:04

PabloGee

701 posts

37 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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MS2 was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago for our cars, absolutely no need to change it, the engine itself certainly hasn’t t advanced since you installed it!
Possibly get it mapped again, but possibly a waste of beer tokens if there are other things you’re considering.
As I understand it, the MS2 is a solid base.

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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PabloGee said:
MS2 was recommended to me a couple of weeks ago for our cars, absolutely no need to change it, the engine itself certainly hasn’t t advanced since you installed it!
Possibly get it mapped again, but possibly a waste of beer tokens if there are other things you’re considering.
As I understand it, the MS2 is a solid base.
I heard you the first time Paul smile

baconsarney

Original Poster:

12,193 posts

178 months

Tuesday 2nd September
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BritishTvr450 said:
No it’s ok. It had to happen mate.

I’d taken the car on a long journey of constant upgrading and understanding at the same time as using it almost as a daily for over a decade and taking her to lots of meets and Tvr fun days. a new clutch and bits and bobs but never ever failed on the road. Went to France, pulled a fit french bird :haha: went allover the Uk, did the lot.
Even raced at Hethel with lots of TVR boys and Lotus employees giving admiring glances at the glory of a pit Lane full of Tvr owners and us lot thrashing around making loads of noise.

Or the day a mate came trundling through the paddock at Snetterton with a deep growling ( special intake ) Chim 500 after driving out to get a part for Matt Smith to race on I seem to remember and just the presence of his dark coloured car with its rare dark interior and deep rumble, I remember thinking that’s a powerful car, happened to be yours Rich.
Great days so I think a body lift and tidy up would set your car up for a few decades longer.
Sad to let mine go but I think I set the car up enough to last a long long time yet.

I remember that day well Alun smile hope you continue to frequent the forums here smile




Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 11:58


Edited by BritishTvr450 on Sunday 31st August 12:04

PabloGee

701 posts

37 months

Wednesday 3rd September
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baconsarney said:
I heard you the first time Paul smile
ha, not sure what happened there!

but reading this thread again makes me want a new diff biggrin