Early Lancia Beta
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what a shame - looks pretty solid with a lovely interior - why would it be removed from the DVLA?
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What a rare thing an early Beta coupe 1.6 twincam - for one of those it looks exceptionally rot free so it must have been stored in a very dry place for over 30 years to be like that. Probably come from a deceased estate with no paperwork, shame as it looks save-able.
I had an early HPE 1.6 in red the same mk1 model as that with the oddball interior and mad dash, mine was a 78 car it was rusty when I had it less than 9 years old. I loved that car it had so much good engineering in it compared to other cars of that time, twin cam, disks all round, wishbone suspension, 5 speed, power steering it made things like a Capri or Manta seem so basic.
I had an early HPE 1.6 in red the same mk1 model as that with the oddball interior and mad dash, mine was a 78 car it was rusty when I had it less than 9 years old. I loved that car it had so much good engineering in it compared to other cars of that time, twin cam, disks all round, wishbone suspension, 5 speed, power steering it made things like a Capri or Manta seem so basic.
rallycross said:
What a rare thing an early Beta coupe 1.6 twincam - for one of those it looks exceptionally rot free so it must have been stored in a very dry place for over 30 years to be like that. Probably come from a deceased estate with no paperwork, shame as it looks save-able.
I had an early HPE 1.6 in red the same mk1 model as that with the oddball interior and mad dash, mine was a 78 car it was rusty when I had it less than 9 years old. I loved that car it had so much good engineering in it compared to other cars of that time, twin cam, disks all round, wishbone suspension, 5 speed, power steering it made things like a Capri or Manta seem so basic.
completely agree - i had a 1981 2.0 coupe and it was fabulous - could never understand why anyone would buy an RS2000 instead..I had an early HPE 1.6 in red the same mk1 model as that with the oddball interior and mad dash, mine was a 78 car it was rusty when I had it less than 9 years old. I loved that car it had so much good engineering in it compared to other cars of that time, twin cam, disks all round, wishbone suspension, 5 speed, power steering it made things like a Capri or Manta seem so basic.
Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 15:24
rallycross said:
What a rare thing an early Beta coupe 1.6 twincam - for one of those it looks exceptionally rot free so it must have been stored in a very dry place for over 30 years to be like that. Probably come from a deceased estate with no paperwork, shame as it looks save-able.
But, if it has a legible and valid VIN number, there's no reason why it could have been sold prior to any DVLA declaration, and a new V5C issued by DVLA if there was supporting paperwork from the estate executers/solicitors etc.Very odd.
There's no current Govt EV or scrappage scheme in place, so it can't be that.
Shame, but a great spares source for someone never the less.
aeropilot said:
rallycross said:
What a rare thing an early Beta coupe 1.6 twincam - for one of those it looks exceptionally rot free so it must have been stored in a very dry place for over 30 years to be like that. Probably come from a deceased estate with no paperwork, shame as it looks save-able.
But, if it has a legible and valid VIN number, there's no reason why it could have been sold prior to any DVLA declaration, and a new V5C issued by DVLA if there was supporting paperwork from the estate executers/solicitors etc.Very odd.
There's no current Govt EV or scrappage scheme in place, so it can't be that.
Shame, but a great spares source for someone never the less.
Like you say, very odd.
aeropilot said:
But, if it has a legible and valid VIN number, there's no reason why it could have been sold prior to any DVLA declaration, and a new V5C issued by DVLA if there was supporting paperwork from the estate executers/solicitors etc.
Very odd.
There's no current Govt EV or scrappage scheme in place, so it can't be that.
Shame, but a great spares source for someone never the less.
Unless of course it was removed during the scrappage scheme and it's been sat somewhere in the meantime...Very odd.
There's no current Govt EV or scrappage scheme in place, so it can't be that.
Shame, but a great spares source for someone never the less.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-scr...
Don't spend too long looking at the s/s - it will make you weep....
Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 18:03
wjs1968 said:
completely agree - i had a 1981 2.0 coupe and it was fabulous - could never understand why anyone would buy an RS2000 instead..
I loved the Lampredi twin-cams I had in a Fiat 125 and a 132 1800ES, but bought an RS2000 because it was RWD!Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 15:24
But looking back the drivetrain was pretty agricultural, although the handling was sublime - you could really take liberties with it.
Beta Coupes are really pretty cars although my favourite Beta was the HPE.
Mr Tidy said:
wjs1968 said:
completely agree - i had a 1981 2.0 coupe and it was fabulous - could never understand why anyone would buy an RS2000 instead..
I loved the Lampredi twin-cams I had in a Fiat 125 and a 132 1800ES, but bought an RS2000 because it was RWD!Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 15:24
But looking back the drivetrain was pretty agricultural, although the handling was sublime - you could really take liberties with it.
aeropilot said:
Mr Tidy said:
wjs1968 said:
completely agree - i had a 1981 2.0 coupe and it was fabulous - could never understand why anyone would buy an RS2000 instead..
I loved the Lampredi twin-cams I had in a Fiat 125 and a 132 1800ES, but bought an RS2000 because it was RWD!Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 15:24
But looking back the drivetrain was pretty agricultural, although the handling was sublime - you could really take liberties with it.
rallycross said:
I had an early HPE 1.6 in red the same mk1 model as that with the oddball interior and mad dash, mine was a 78 car it was rusty when I had it less than 9 years old. I loved that car it had so much good engineering in it compared to other cars of that time, twin cam, disks all round, wishbone suspension, 5 speed, power steering it made things like a Capri or Manta seem so basic.
A mate of mine had an early 2.0 HPE which was treated to the fuel-injected motor from a facelift.Like you say, the earlier interior was 70s-tastic.
The HPE handled extremely well - I loved it.
Rob 131 Sport said:
aeropilot said:
Mr Tidy said:
wjs1968 said:
completely agree - i had a 1981 2.0 coupe and it was fabulous - could never understand why anyone would buy an RS2000 instead..
I loved the Lampredi twin-cams I had in a Fiat 125 and a 132 1800ES, but bought an RS2000 because it was RWD!Edited by wjs1968 on Tuesday 19th August 15:24
But looking back the drivetrain was pretty agricultural, although the handling was sublime - you could really take liberties with it.
When I had my Escorts, 60-70% of the people I knew that also had them, used them in comps, they were ideal dual-use cars, road rallying was huge back in the late 70's and early 80's, and they used the car they went to work in during the week, on a Saturday night road rally.
And that was why people used Mini's, Imp, Avengers, Sunbeams, Chevette's and of course Escorts. Lots of used parts, easy to fix and work on (maybe not the case with Imps and Mini's
) and didn't use anything exotic like a Fiat or Lancia or (insert whatever foreign make you want) One guy in our motorclub did use a Saab 96 V4 though (with a MGB B-series lump shoehorned into the front!!) but he was a weirdo
Another guys swapped his Mk.2 RS Mexico for a new R5 Gordini, but saw the error of his ways for all reasons above, and after 18 months chopped it in for a used Mk.2 RS2000.
They were good cars and no more rot prone than most Fords/Maxis etc. The rear mounting area for the front subframe looks ok so it's perhaps unlikely to be one of the cars condemned 40+ years ago although some did escape in 82-83 after being recorded as scrapped. It's possible that it's been stored for all those years.
You could re-register it on the chassis number and have an age related number. It's too rare to just break up for parts.
You could re-register it on the chassis number and have an age related number. It's too rare to just break up for parts.
aeropilot said:
But, there was bugger all go-faster parts for it, and not much used comp parts around in the UK either.
When I had my Escorts, 60-70% of the people I knew that also had them, used them in comps, they were ideal dual-use cars, road rallying was huge back in the late 70's and early 80's, and they used the car they went to work in during the week, on a Saturday night road rally.
And that was why people used Mini's, Imp, Avengers, Sunbeams, Chevette's and of course Escorts. Lots of used parts, easy to fix and work on (maybe not the case with Imps and Mini's) and didn't use anything exotic like a Fiat or Lancia or (insert whatever foreign make you want)
One guy in our motorclub did use a Saab 96 V4 though (with a MGB B-series lump shoehorned into the front!!) but he was a weirdo
Another guys swapped his Mk.2 RS Mexico for a new R5 Gordini, but saw the error of his ways for all reasons above, and after 18 months chopped it in for a used Mk.2 RS2000.
I got out of British cars and into Italians for the opposite reason because my use case was different; I just wanted to get in a car and be able to thrash it up to Skye and back without having to lie on my back for several months replacing all the standard parts with better ones :-)When I had my Escorts, 60-70% of the people I knew that also had them, used them in comps, they were ideal dual-use cars, road rallying was huge back in the late 70's and early 80's, and they used the car they went to work in during the week, on a Saturday night road rally.
And that was why people used Mini's, Imp, Avengers, Sunbeams, Chevette's and of course Escorts. Lots of used parts, easy to fix and work on (maybe not the case with Imps and Mini's
) and didn't use anything exotic like a Fiat or Lancia or (insert whatever foreign make you want) One guy in our motorclub did use a Saab 96 V4 though (with a MGB B-series lump shoehorned into the front!!) but he was a weirdo
Another guys swapped his Mk.2 RS Mexico for a new R5 Gordini, but saw the error of his ways for all reasons above, and after 18 months chopped it in for a used Mk.2 RS2000.
Horses for courses.
AC43 said:
aeropilot said:
But, there was bugger all go-faster parts for it, and not much used comp parts around in the UK either.
When I had my Escorts, 60-70% of the people I knew that also had them, used them in comps, they were ideal dual-use cars, road rallying was huge back in the late 70's and early 80's, and they used the car they went to work in during the week, on a Saturday night road rally.
And that was why people used Mini's, Imp, Avengers, Sunbeams, Chevette's and of course Escorts. Lots of used parts, easy to fix and work on (maybe not the case with Imps and Mini's) and didn't use anything exotic like a Fiat or Lancia or (insert whatever foreign make you want)
One guy in our motorclub did use a Saab 96 V4 though (with a MGB B-series lump shoehorned into the front!!) but he was a weirdo
Another guys swapped his Mk.2 RS Mexico for a new R5 Gordini, but saw the error of his ways for all reasons above, and after 18 months chopped it in for a used Mk.2 RS2000.
I got out of British cars and into Italians for the opposite reason because my use case was different; I just wanted to get in a car and be able to thrash it up to Skye and back without having to lie on my back for several months replacing all the standard parts with better ones :-)When I had my Escorts, 60-70% of the people I knew that also had them, used them in comps, they were ideal dual-use cars, road rallying was huge back in the late 70's and early 80's, and they used the car they went to work in during the week, on a Saturday night road rally.
And that was why people used Mini's, Imp, Avengers, Sunbeams, Chevette's and of course Escorts. Lots of used parts, easy to fix and work on (maybe not the case with Imps and Mini's
) and didn't use anything exotic like a Fiat or Lancia or (insert whatever foreign make you want) One guy in our motorclub did use a Saab 96 V4 though (with a MGB B-series lump shoehorned into the front!!) but he was a weirdo
Another guys swapped his Mk.2 RS Mexico for a new R5 Gordini, but saw the error of his ways for all reasons above, and after 18 months chopped it in for a used Mk.2 RS2000.
Horses for courses.
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