Advice needed RRS sale

[Sixpackpert]

Morning all,

Bit of a long story but I’ll summarise it below.

Dad buys a brand new RRS Autobiography December 2024.
Dad had a heart attack while at the wheel in March this year that resulted in a head on with a van. Thankfully both drivers are okay.
After 6 months in the Land Rover Approved bodyshop waiting for parts the insurance company approved the 46 grand, yes 46 grand, 6 page parts list, repair bill.
I collected the car for Dad and parked it up at his as he has decided to sell it and get something smaller.
Dad got the local dealer to come and value it and buy it. Valued at 80k.
Happy with that Dad asked to go ahead with the deal. Salesman then asked if it had any damage history. Dad being honest told them and they have now said they will not buy it, no lower offer, just refuse to buy it.

My initial thought was they were worried about warranty for any new owners. Having thought on that I then wondered if they would refuse any warranty work on it because of the accident damage? This has now scuppered any plan of trade in as he was going to get an Evoque.

So what next? We buy any car? Not interested in the private sale route.

I am still puzzled as to why they will not accept a car that has been repaired by an approved bodyshop with genuine parts.

Any advice welcome guys.

[miniman]

I imagine it’s simply that the rules of their approved used scheme include never selling Cat-registered cars regardless of how they were repaired.

I can’t see how anyone would part with £80k+ at a main dealer for a car with substantial crash damage.

[Cold]

miniman said:

I imagine it’s simply that the rules of their approved used scheme include never selling Cat-registered cars regardless of how they were repaired.

I can’t see how anyone would part with £80k+ at a main dealer for a car with substantial crash damage.

It's not Cat registered if a repair has been authorised. The authorised repair means it hasn't been written off and thus no Cat categorisation would occur.

However, a £46k bill suggests quite the wallop! It might be one for WBAC etc and just suck up the reduced amount you'll receive. At least they won't be able to knock money off for stone chips.

[miniman]

Cold said:

miniman said:

I imagine it’s simply that the rules of their approved used scheme include never selling Cat-registered cars regardless of how they were repaired.

I can’t see how anyone would part with £80k+ at a main dealer for a car with substantial crash damage.

It's not Cat registered if a repair has been authorised. The authorised repair means it hasn't been written off and thus no Cat categorisation would occur.

However, a £46k bill suggests quite the wallop! It might be one for WBAC etc and just suck up the reduced amount you'll receive. At least they won't be able to knock money off for stone chips.

Yes I suppose it wasn’t written off thus no market. Seems incredible that there’s no official traceability of such a huge (50% of the value of the car) repair.

[Deep Thought]

I'd try all the main online buyer services. See who offers what. I'd imagine there will be notable variance.

[Sixpackpert]

Thanks guys. I’m off on holiday so will get it sorted with Dad when I’m back.

WBAC quoted 75k online so obviously it will go down when we say it has had a repair. I am thinking of just saying it had a prang and was repaired by a Land Rover approved bodyshop and let them inspect it and make their own mind up. No need to tell them the value of the repair.

[Deep Thought]

Sixpackpert said:

Thanks guys. I’m off on holiday so will get it sorted with Dad when I’m back.

WBAC quoted 75k online so obviously it will go down when we say it has had a repair. I am thinking of just saying it had a prang and was repaired by a Land Rover approved bodyshop and let them inspect it and make their own mind up. No need to tell them the value of the repair.

Would you have to say it has had a repair? Its not Cat'd and it was an Approved Repairer.

[Sixpackpert]

Deep Thought said:

Sixpackpert said:

Thanks guys. I’m off on holiday so will get it sorted with Dad when I’m back.

WBAC quoted 75k online so obviously it will go down when we say it has had a repair. I am thinking of just saying it had a prang and was repaired by a Land Rover approved bodyshop and let them inspect it and make their own mind up. No need to tell them the value of the repair.

Would you have to say it has had a repair? Its not Cat'd and it was an Approved Repairer.

Apparently we are not obligated to say.

If they ask I would find it very hard to say no…I know, I’m too honest. But when they go round with their paint depth thingy and they find variances how do I explain that away.

I guess we can just say no, no accidents and see what happens. There is no record of it anywhere.

[Deep Thought]

Sixpackpert said:

Apparently we are not obligated to say.

If they ask I would find it very hard to say no…I know, I’m too honest. But when they go round with their paint depth thingy and they find variances how do I explain that away.

I guess we can just say no, no accidents and see what happens. There is no record of it anywhere.

I cant see that they will ask directly. If they ask directly then yes, but i dont think they ask has it had any repairs other than if its Cat'd

[bakerstreet]

My understanding is that if its not had a category applied, then there is no obligation to disclose it at all and if its been repaired by a approved LR Bodyshop, then it would take a much more seasoned inspector than the youth employed at WEBAC. IE someone with a paint depth measurement gauge or similar.

I've owned four LR products and moan about them a lot, but to walk away from a head on collision is a testament to the modern car and all the safety features that come with that.

[Deep Thought]

bakerstreet said:

My understanding is that if its not had a category applied, then there is no obligation to disclose it at all and if its been repaired by a approved LR Bodyshop, then it would take a much more seasoned inspector than the youth employed at WEBAC. IE someone with a paint depth measurement gauge or similar.

I've owned four LR products and moan about them a lot, but to walk away from a head on collision is a testament to the modern car and all the safety features that come with that.

Agreed.

I've only sold a couple of cars to WBAC and they've very specific questions but i dont recall them asking about repairs. They ask about faults and damage / scratches on the car, and they ask about write off status, but thats about it really.

Heres the specific question and answer options, so the O/P would be selecting "Never Written Off".

[akadk]

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money

[Sixpackpert]

akadk said:

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money

Do they? Is that new. They didn’t do that for my previous car 3 years ago that was over 50k.

Edited by Sixpackpert on Wednesday 20th August 20:54

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akadk said:

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money

Is that a fact?

[akadk]

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money

[Sixpackpert]

akadk said:

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money

Is that a fact?

[Mikebentley]

I’m glad your dad and the other driver are both ok. Would he not have been better off with it being written off?

[paulwirral]

Deep Thought said:

bakerstreet said:

My understanding is that if its not had a category applied, then there is no obligation to disclose it at all and if its been repaired by a approved LR Bodyshop, then it would take a much more seasoned inspector than the youth employed at WEBAC. IE someone with a paint depth measurement gauge or similar.

I've owned four LR products and moan about them a lot, but to walk away from a head on collision is a testament to the modern car and all the safety features that come with that.

Agreed.

I've only sold a couple of cars to WBAC and they've very specific questions but i dont recall them asking about repairs. They ask about faults and damage / scratches on the car, and they ask about write off status, but thats about it really.

Heres the specific question and answer options, so the O/P would be selecting "Never Written Off".

Exactly , fill the form in and take it there if the bid is decent, they’ll knock you down and it’s their job to do so , take the money and it’s their business to sell,it .

[Sixpackpert]

Mikebentley said:

I’m glad your dad and the other driver are both ok. Would he not have been better off with it being written off?

He didn’t have a choice in that. The insurers dealt with it and repaired the car. How could he have asked them to write it off?

[akadk]

WBAC will have a separate inspection completed on a ramp for cars >£20k before they pay you the money