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DavePanda

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6,756 posts

251 months

Monday 11th August
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Sold my car last week via CarWow, out of interest i looked up the trader who bought it to see what they are selling it for. It's listed on their website with over 20k less miles than it had and with a full stamped service history which it didn't have, it was only partial and they never took any of it with them, i still have it here. So not only has it been clocked but been given false service history by the sounds of it

Obviously i don't care as it's not my car but someone is about to get stitched up

What's funny is that the advert states a full service done at xxx miles but the MOT mileage from today is lower

Trevor555

4,851 posts

101 months

Monday 11th August
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I've tried to do this before, and sadly, got largely nowhere.

CAB will only deal with this with a person that's bought a car.

And once, many moons ago, when i actually got to speak to a trading standards officer, was told the same.

Autotrader may take an interest if it's on their site, there's a "report advert" tab, they might remove the advert.

What you describe is actually fraud. But actually getting the Police to deal with this? I'd be surprised if they'll take it on.

Makes my pee boil, but getting any thing done to prevent this is almost impossible.

Let us know if you have any success.

I'd def let Carwow know though.



Edited by Trevor555 on Monday 11th August 15:04

DavePanda

Original Poster:

6,756 posts

251 months

Monday 11th August
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This is what i thought, like i said it doesn't matter to me anymore but it's the scamming dealer who already tried to knock me down hundreds of pounds for non existent faults when they came to pick it up, i'd say they've likely done it to many of the cars they have for sale

GeniusOfLove

4,011 posts

29 months

Monday 11th August
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Maybe you should provide us a link to a car very similar to the point of being identical to yours, to give context?

mikeyr

3,208 posts

210 months

Monday 11th August
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I would contact the dealer and point it the inconsistencies so they can change the advert (being charitable to them by assuming an error). Does the current mileage undercut that listed on the MOT?

86DA

230 posts

144 months

Monday 11th August
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What about the local trading standards.

Trading Standards prosecuted the chap i bought a clocked car from, did him for 15 or 20 cars, he kept remarkably good records apparently.

Went to Prison i think, was a Cavalier SRi, so a while ago.

E63eeeeee...

5,497 posts

66 months

Monday 11th August
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Iirc, if you have the VIN you can notify the car checking companies so that it comes up as a mileage issue - I'll add that I've only heard/ read this and never actually tried, but I think you might be able to record the mileage when you sold it.

Also looks like DVSA are an option if you've not tried them yet.

Sheepshanks

37,903 posts

136 months

Monday 11th August
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Years ago you could have reported the garage to Trading Standards, but thanks to "cuts" they basically don't exist any more.

md_ph

385 posts

121 months

Monday 11th August
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Do an HPI check on it with the miles you sold it at and it will show up as a mileage discrepancy if someone checks it on HPI.

OverSteery

3,777 posts

248 months

Monday 11th August
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How 'big' is the dealer? If it's medium or larger outfit, a letter to the director registered at companies house might cause some fun and games for someone!

Hugo Stiglitz

39,730 posts

228 months

Monday 11th August
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How can you get it flagged up on the likes of vcheck and hpi?

Thats shocking.

cliffords

2,800 posts

40 months

Monday 11th August
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I sold a car to a dealership in a part exchange deal.
The car quite a long time later showed up on AT at a dealership about 300 miles away from me. The dents and rear bumper all repaired. Car looked nice in the adverts. The advert included shots of the fully stamped service book, that was kind of odd as it had no service book when I sold it. BMW service records on the car display and a load of invoices from me. You could make out dates stamps mileage etc for each service. The car was advertised with 22k less miles than when it left me. This gave it 18 k miles less than the last Mot records showed.
I contacted the garage as a buyer and asked them some very detailed questions about the car, service history and previous owners etc. I did not get a reply and the advert was gone the same day.

Auto810graphy

1,608 posts

109 months

Monday 11th August
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md_ph said:
Do an HPI check on it with the miles you sold it at and it will show up as a mileage discrepancy if someone checks it on HPI.
Are you sure? I thought NMR entries came from
DVLA, BVRLA and Epyx.

Auto810graphy

1,608 posts

109 months

Monday 11th August
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md_ph said:
Do an HPI check on it with the miles you sold it at and it will show up as a mileage discrepancy if someone checks it on HPI.
Are you sure? I thought NMR entries came from
DVLA, BVRLA and Epyx.

Kevin-2g5x2

70 posts

56 months

Monday 11th August
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Ring them up, tell them that your partners really upset that you sold the car and need to buy it back, have they made a mistake in the advert because the mileage is wrong etc

Its Just Adz

16,588 posts

226 months

Monday 11th August
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Its not the car in your profile is it?

md_ph

385 posts

121 months

Monday 11th August
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Auto810graphy said:
Are you sure? I thought NMR entries came from
DVLA, BVRLA and Epyx.
Some tool a few years ago done an HPI on a car I was selling and put in a random mileage and it caused me issues when trading the car in as it was showing a mileage discrepancy at the car dealership that I had to sort with HPI before I could get the car traded in.

DavePanda

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6,756 posts

251 months

Monday 11th August
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OverSteery said:
How 'big' is the dealer? If it's medium or larger outfit, a letter to the director registered at companies house might cause some fun and games for someone!
When i say dealer i mean trader, it wasn't a big sale, the garage is pretty big however, they've got around 200 cars for sale, a lot of cars in the higher mileage bracket. The director of the company was one of the guys who came to collect it so you know full well they work on his instruction. Without giving too much information they were some of our "ethnic cousins"


DavePanda

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Its Just Adz said:
Its not the car in your profile is it?
Ha no, forgot that was on there. Sold that years ago

DavePanda

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251 months

Monday 11th August
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mikeyr said:
I would contact the dealer and point it the inconsistencies so they can change the advert (being charitable to them by assuming an error). Does the current mileage undercut that listed on the MOT?
It was MOT'd today with the adjusted mileage, shows as around 3k miles since last year where i've actually done around 70 miles a day for the past 18 months