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Blue_star

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160 posts

32 months

Yesterday (11:48)
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Hi All,

I need some extra income.

My company refused a raise. Also if my PAYE changes indicating a second job I will be in trouble with HR.

Miss blue cannot work as baby care.

Do you have ideas on what I can do where I dont get on payroll for second job (otherwise grocery shop) and instead I can do my own tax return as self wmployed or I can generate income in my wifes name? Not sure if ltd would work and what I can do with it?

Any ideas are appreciated

Many thanks


Mandat

4,265 posts

254 months

Yesterday (12:16)
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Blue_star said:
Hi All,

I need some extra income.

My company refused a raise. Also if my PAYE changes indicating a second job I will be in trouble with HR.

Miss blue cannot work as baby care.

Do you have ideas on what I can do where I dont get on payroll for second job (otherwise grocery shop) and instead I can do my own tax return as self wmployed or I can generate income in my wifes name? Not sure if ltd would work and what I can do with it?

Any ideas are appreciated

Many thanks
How about you look after the baby when not working, so Mrs Blue can go to work.

The added benefit is that the first £12,570 that she earns will be tax free.

clio007

602 posts

241 months

Yesterday (14:01)
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Sign up Miss blue to OF?

Ezra

800 posts

43 months

Yesterday (14:09)
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Your PAYE code could change for any number of reasons - not all of them related to employment. Even if someone in your current firms HR dept actually notices (I suspect this is all automated via a payroll process so nobody is actually looking at PAYE codes anyway), there's any number of tax related reasons for the change.

Also, PAYE is private - if that kind of question was raised by some HR bod to me, they'd get a very sharp mind your own fking business!

Vsix and Vtec

992 posts

34 months

Yesterday (14:19)
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Mandat said:
How about you look after the baby when not working, so Mrs Blue can go to work.

The added benefit is that the first £12,570 that she earns will be tax free.
This is your simple answer.

Even if it's part time, your other half has a decent chunk of earning potential before tax takes any of it. Another option could be Mrs Blue gets a WFH role part time, and you ask your parents to take Jnr Blue for a few hours a week.

Other than that, you're looking things like at monetising DIY skills (fix broken stuff to sell on Ebay for example) or some form of cash in hand work like mowing lawns for the old dears in the neighbourhood.

Blue_star

Original Poster:

160 posts

32 months

Yesterday (19:45)
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Vsix and Vtec said:
Mandat said:
How about you look after the baby when not working, so Mrs Blue can go to work.

The added benefit is that the first £12,570 that she earns will be tax free.
This is your simple answer.

Even if it's part time, your other half has a decent chunk of earning potential before tax takes any of it. Another option could be Mrs Blue gets a WFH role part time, and you ask your parents to take Jnr Blue for a few hours a week.

Other than that, you're looking things like at monetising DIY skills (fix broken stuff to sell on Ebay for example) or some form of cash in hand work like mowing lawns for the old dears in the neighbourhood.
First of all, as avid coffee drinker in Wales I do love the profile picture.

Secondly, thank you for sound advice. No parents on either side can help; but tbh in 2 years she can start wfh.

On dyi I will need to have a glass of brandy and have a think if I am useful in some dyi way. I love driving but not sure helpful

Blue_star

Original Poster:

160 posts

32 months

Yesterday (19:47)
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clio007 said:
Sign up Miss blue to OF?
My next post will be in the health and recovery section on how to pull out a frying pan from my a55

Funk

26,852 posts

225 months

Yesterday (19:51)
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Blue_star said:
clio007 said:
Sign up Miss blue to OF?
My next post will be in the health and recovery section on how to pull out a frying pan from my a55
Maybe you start one - you'd be surprised what some people are willing to pay to watch... eek

shirt

24,436 posts

217 months

Yesterday (19:57)
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Blue_star said:
My company refused a raise.
how is the jobs market for what you do? start there.

ATM

19,964 posts

235 months

Yesterday (20:16)
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Blue_star said:
Hi All,

I need some extra income.

My company refused a raise. Also if my PAYE changes indicating a second job I will be in trouble with HR.

Miss blue cannot work as baby care.

Do you have ideas on what I can do where I dont get on payroll for second job (otherwise grocery shop) and instead I can do my own tax return as self wmployed or I can generate income in my wifes name? Not sure if ltd would work and what I can do with it?

Any ideas are appreciated

Many thanks
Surely your wife can have a business, no need to be Ltd so could be a simple sole trader setup. Then whatever side hustle you're planning or inferring would be invoiced from and paid to the wife's bus. Now clearly this could be illegal or some form of tax avoidance, not sure. I'm sure the government would have tied up this loophole with legislation already.

So it really depends on what side hustle you're able to do or skills you can offer because I'm not sure if you're suggesting you have some ideas already or you're literally asking PH for ideas.

The obvious answer for a person without any specific skills other than being able bodied is delivering parcels like Amazon if you can do this on just Saturdays only or a Deliveroo type thing. I believe these work a bit like a taxi where you choose your own hours but that's just guesswork.

asfault

13,202 posts

195 months

Yesterday (21:10)
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get interviews at other firms in your companies field. Secure an offer and then see if current employer will match the offer. Make decesion from there.

eltax91

10,346 posts

222 months

Yesterday (21:46)
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asfault said:
get interviews at other firms in your companies field. Secure an offer and then see if current employer will match the offer. Make decesion from there.
And if they do match/ exceed the new offer, ask yourself why you weren’t worth that in the first place!!

To answer your OP. Doing this via your wife’s tax allowance would be the most tax efficient. I’m sure there are rules against it but end of the day it’s unlikely HMRC are going to be looking this closely at a single person.

My wife has a small consultancy business and I work PAYE, I’ve done some very limited advisory work for American companies looking to expand in the U.K. in our field and have invoiced it through her Ltd to reduce tax and keep it away from my employer.

Gig economy? Delivering stuff. Uber. Aren’t they all ‘sole trader’ jobs which wouldn’t affect the tax code?

Doofus

31,063 posts

189 months

Yesterday (21:54)
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Get a different job?

Wacky Racer

39,844 posts

263 months

Yesterday (22:07)
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Blue_star said:
clio007 said:
Sign up Miss blue to OF?
My next post will be in the health and recovery section on how to pull out a frying pan from my a55
Kinky. nerd

MustangGT

13,339 posts

296 months

Blue_star said:
Hi All,

I need some extra income.

My company refused a raise. Also if my PAYE changes indicating a second job I will be in trouble with HR.

Miss blue cannot work as baby care.

Do you have ideas on what I can do where I dont get on payroll for second job (otherwise grocery shop) and instead I can do my own tax return as self wmployed or I can generate income in my wifes name? Not sure if ltd would work and what I can do with it?

Any ideas are appreciated

Many thanks
As others have said, your partner working is the answer.

To address another comment in your OP. Your main job PAYE code should not change if you get a second job, that job's PAYE code will address the extra income.

Also, does your contract of employment have a clause about working another job? Many do, but often restrict it to not working for a competitor.

bristolbaron

5,267 posts

228 months

A company refusing an increase whilst also stopping me working elsewhere would be left pretty sharpish..

I’d definitely focus on how the other half can work, unless your hourly wage doing whatever would vastly exceed yours then the tax saving would make it worthwhile.

ATM

19,964 posts

235 months

Blue_star said:
Miss blue cannot work as baby care.
If she is at home but can't do babies there are other things she can do

Dog walking - pretty much anyone can do this if they can walk and it's great exercise too

Carer - going to see older people and help them with shopping or cleaning and tidying and just giving them some company basically

Call centre stuff - so answering phone calls and helping people with simple stuff - can be done WFH with decent Internet connection

Taxi or Deliveroo or Amazon deliveries