Ideas for bare back wall climber
Ideas for bare back wall climber
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Ezra

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800 posts

43 months

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I'm under pressure from Mrs E to add a bit of 'something' to the back wall of the house. It's a relatively new build and it just looks a bit....bland.

It's directly south facing but we're on a ridge so it gets really quite windy at times. I fancy getting a large planter and putting up some tensioned wire trellis for a climber. We've had clematis (don't know which, but had large flowers) in the back in tubs with trellis supports previously and they've really struggled with the wind.

Anyway, any idea's for a relatively easy to source hardy climber that would do well in a sunny but windy location. I'm not up for growing from scratch...would much prefer to head to the garden centre and replant something.

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Doofus

31,063 posts

189 months

Saturday
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House wall? If so, something slow-growing. Espalier fruit tree?

DorsetSparky

412 posts

26 months

Saturday
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I read the thread title and thought you're someone who uses one of those climbing walls with your back out, and needed some sort of protection (T-shirt?).

Sorry, as you were.

Ezra

Original Poster:

800 posts

43 months

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DorsetSparky said:
I read the thread title and thought you're someone who uses one of those climbing walls with your back out, and needed some sort of protection (T-shirt?).

Sorry, as you were.
yeah...I can see that laugh

craigjm

19,411 posts

216 months

Saturday
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DorsetSparky said:
I read the thread title and thought you're someone who uses one of those climbing walls with your back out, and needed some sort of protection (T-shirt?).

Sorry, as you were.
I actually wondered for a second if wall climber was a sexual position hehe

The Three D Mucketeer

6,606 posts

243 months

Saturday
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I would be careful about anything that gets it's roots into the mortar ... with a new build house there must be a far chance of pulling it down getmecoat

bobtail4x4

4,037 posts

125 months

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A local Persimmon house had brickwork so bad, a climber easily went up the gable,

as to the question, if you plant trees next to the house, consider the roots damaging the foundations,

Simpo Two

89,268 posts

281 months

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Variegated ivy is evergreen, grows fast and will cling on in a gale, no trellis needed.

Doofus

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189 months

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Simpo Two said:
Variegated ivy is evergreen, grows fast and will cling on in a gale, no trellis needed.

You'll be forever cutting it back when it covers your windows.

And if you ever decide to get rid of it, it will have scarred the brickwork.

Simpo Two

89,268 posts

281 months

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Doofus said:
Simpo Two said:
Variegated ivy is evergreen, grows fast and will cling on in a gale, no trellis needed.

You'll be forever cutting it back when it covers your windows.

And if you ever decide to get rid of it, it will have scarred the brickwork.
My other idiot-proof suggestion is Virginia Creeper; it looks lovely especially in autumn, but then sheds its leaves. It also grows even faster than ivy - that said, it's easy to cut back and roll up in great arm-fulls!

OP - do you want evergreen or deciduous?

Pheo

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218 months

Saturday
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Virginia Creeper is invasive iirc.

Depends how big you want it to get and do you want it evergreen, and then what level of sun, and how big a pot you can fit in (clue - as large as possible).

Given its a bit exposed it does make it harder. Roses can be hard as nails given the right one eg large climber. Flowers in summer. Needs a decent pot and feeding.

I suspect it might not like the wind but if low sun Clinbing hydrangea.

Clematis Montana is also very hardy and will like sun. Will need to be kept damp at roots generally.

Espalier apple is a good suggestion as made above. Crab apple is a potential if you just want it for ornamental value. You can also espalier things like hornbeam.

Pyracantha or firethorn also very hardy, good for wildlife. But clue is in the name it’s spiky so prune with gloves and consider if that works for the placement.

Wisteria could also work although they prefer not being in a pot. IIRC Chinese type as it’s vigerous. Will need a prune twice a year once well away.

For speed nothing beats an annual climber. Too late in the season now for this year but they will fly away next. Obviously not hardy so you’re doing it again next year but something to consider. Very cheap sown from seed.

Star Jasmine can also work but think it’ll dislike the wind. Worth checking.

Hope one of those might work for you

Ezra

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800 posts

43 months

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Thanks for the suggestions, folks.

We don't want something covering the entire wall. Initially I was thinking something like a clematis or wisteria that will train up a wire trellis, but it needs to be able to cope with wind.

We've had ivy at other houses...christ, never again. That stuff is just relentless.

Would prefer evergreen, or at least keeps something all year round. Got to admit, I'm tempted with the fruit suggestions. Something like espalier or fan trained - anyone know if I could train one grown in a planter?

Pheo

3,440 posts

218 months

Saturday
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Yes you can. As big a container as possible (absolutely min is likely 60ltrs), and remember it’ll need regular watering and feeding vs a tree in the ground. Otherwise no problem.

Have a look at paramount plants for various pre formed examples.

dmsims

7,217 posts

283 months

Saturday
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Jasmine

Seems cope with windy salty air

Easy to keep tidy (a lot less work than a Wisteria)

Evergreen (in Devon)

Mr Pointy

12,566 posts

175 months

Yesterday (06:30)
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What about a passion flower? it'll have no problem covering a wall, is evergreen but does need pruning back quite hard to keep it under control.

Simpo Two

89,268 posts

281 months

Yesterday (08:31)
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Evergreen honeysuckle? The flowers smell lovely too smile

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,326 posts

181 months

Yesterday (15:16)
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I would strongly caution against wisteria.

Once it gets established it is very, very vigorous and fast growing. You’ll have it invading the guttering and roof eaves before you know it, and it can do damage.

It can also take quite a few years before it decides to start flowering.

Simpo Two

89,268 posts

281 months

Yesterday (22:21)
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
I would strongly caution against wisteria.

Once it gets established it is very, very vigorous and fast growing. You’ll have it invading the guttering and roof eaves before you know it, and it can do damage.

It can also take quite a few years before it decides to start flowering.
I think the most obvious thing is that whilst it can look fabulous, it needs maintenance to look fabulous. We don't know if the OP is a green-fingered wizard or wants a 'plant and forget' solution. Why a planter? Is this a car park?

Baldchap

9,172 posts

108 months

Yesterday (22:31)
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I have just paid someone to remove wall plants off my current renovation.

Destructive wasp attractants aren't to my taste. Not saying they're all like this but most people don't want the insects and the maintenance even without the damage.

Sheets Tabuer

20,375 posts

231 months

Yesterday (22:35)
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Not all wisteria are huge, amethyst falls only grows to 15-20 feet.