Unforgivable BBC everything Adolescence wasn't
Unforgivable BBC everything Adolescence wasn't
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Kamov

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621 posts

27 months

Monday 28th July
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002g7zb

Mind blowing acting, shows both victim and perpetrator (unlike Adolescence), explains why some victims of abuse go on to be perpetrators, but doesn't excuse any of it and answers questions we the viewer might be asking with other characters etc. No agenda in any direction other than just laying it out as a story.
Its very very good, and yes extremely bleak and harrowing and i guess depressing to some people who might not really know what depression is.

Also quite funny to see show set in Liverpool but with no Stephen Graham and they all are better actors IMO...
Won't get anywhere near the attention of Adolescence but far and away as a piece of TV way way way above.

cuprabob

16,884 posts

230 months

Monday 28th July
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Thanks for the heads up as this had passed me by. Agreed, it's a good but difficult watch with an excellent cast and acting.

Kamov

Original Poster:

621 posts

27 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Just read a review in the Guardian, and basically aligns with what i said. Although i can go a bit less subtle and state that Adolescence was so popular because it was made for the stupid people.
This wont get any eye balls on it because its far far more advanced. Which is a shame, because taking away the harrowing story, to watch it as apiece of TV production and writing and the acting, is pure joy, masters of the craft in all areas.

Discendo Discimus

727 posts

48 months

Tuesday 29th July
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You know you can enjoy and recommend a TV show without slagging off Adolescence. I don't really see the link between the two.
Weird of you to say Adolescence is for stupid people too. What a statement!

paulguitar

30,833 posts

129 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Discendo Discimus said:
You know you can enjoy and recommend a TV show without slagging off Adolescence. I don't really see the link between the two.
Weird of you to say Adolescence is for stupid people too. What a statement!
Yeah, seriously, wtaf?



elyuw

75 posts

122 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Who the heck are "the stupid people"?

Galibier

183 posts

3 months

Tuesday 29th July
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What a bizarre thread.

Muzzer79

12,211 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th July
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OP, did the director of 'Adolescence' run off with your wife or something?

Weird thread.

Batfoy

1,304 posts

22 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Kamov said:
Just read a review in the Guardian, and basically aligns with what i said. Although i can go a bit less subtle and state that Adolescence was so popular because it was made for the stupid people.
This wont get any eye balls on it because its far far more advanced. Which is a shame, because taking away the harrowing story, to watch it as apiece of TV production and writing and the acting, is pure joy, masters of the craft in all areas.
I'm guessing England isn't your first language? Might also want to take your head out of your hoop for all the sense you're making.

Galibier

183 posts

3 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Kamov said:
Also quite funny to see show set in Liverpool but with no Stephen Graham
jester

crofty1984

16,481 posts

220 months

Tuesday 29th July
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I was thinking about watching Event Horizon later. it's a much better horror movie set in space than Adolescence. Adolescence wasn't set in space at all. Didn't have Lawrence Fishburne in it either.

paulguitar

30,833 posts

129 months

Tuesday 29th July
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crofty1984 said:
I was thinking about watching Event Horizon later. it's a much better horror movie set in space than Adolescence. Adolescence wasn't set in space at all. Didn't have Lawrence Fishburne in it either.
Nope, Event Horizon was made for the stupid people.

8IKERDAVE

2,568 posts

229 months

Tuesday 29th July
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I had to switch it off, sorry but it was leaning very much towards showing sympathy for child abusers.

Quite typical of the BBC trying to 'up' their wokeness. How long before we aren't allowed to be annoyed at paedos and must refer to them as something pathetic.

Muzzer79

12,211 posts

203 months

Tuesday 29th July
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crofty1984 said:
I was thinking about watching Event Horizon later. it's a much better horror movie set in space than Adolescence. Adolescence wasn't set in space at all. Didn't have Lawrence Fishburne in it either.
But it's always gratifying to see a story set in space that doesn't have Stephen Graham in it..........right?

Kamov

Original Poster:

621 posts

27 months

Tuesday 29th July
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8IKERDAVE said:
I had to switch it off, sorry but it was leaning very much towards showing sympathy for child abusers.

Quite typical of the BBC trying to 'up' their wokeness. How long before we aren't allowed to be annoyed at paedos and must refer to them as something pathetic.
It really wasn't, far from it in fact. It showed how his abuse had destroyed a child and their family. It didn't portray him as a monster, but that is for cartoons.
Adolescence is made for the masses, made for people who need to hear simply things like 'Andrew Tate' 'manosphere', and think they can stop the very very very rare occasion a kid will kill a girl in the UK, by stopping them playing on a computer...

To think some programmes aren't made for stupid people is like saying Love Island is the same as a documentary about Vincent Van Gogh...

MondeoDriver

3,842 posts

139 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Discendo Discimus said:
You know you can enjoy and recommend a TV show without slagging off Adolescence. I don't really see the link between the two.
Weird of you to say Adolescence is for stupid people too. What a statement!
Agreed. “Stupid people”? It was a very well made show with considerable technical ability on show as well as acting, writing etc. I enjoyed it and am not particularly stupid.

E63eeeeee...

5,340 posts

65 months

Tuesday 29th July
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I must be one of the stupid people, but I can't work out how Adolescence could have "showed the victim".

At least not without changing genres quite significantly.

Very strange thread.

Mr Magooagain

11,766 posts

186 months

Tuesday 29th July
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Batfoy said:
I'm guessing England isn't your first language? Might also want to take your head out of your hoop for all the sense you're making.

Kamov

Original Poster:

621 posts

27 months

Tuesday 29th July
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I didn't say only stupid people watched Adolescence, but it was made the grab as many people as possible so for that its going to have to drag in the stupid people.
Amazing how defensive people get to calling people stupid.... have you looked around at the world?

Kamov

Original Poster:

621 posts

27 months

Tuesday 29th July
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E63eeeeee... said:
I must be one of the stupid people, but I can't work out how Adolescence could have "showed the victim".

At least not without changing genres quite significantly.

Very strange thread.
Its been done a multitude of times in many films and programmes, its this thing called a 'flashback', or hell even having an actor to play the murdered girls Mum would of been nice......