Plod goes Bond
Discussion
cuprabob said:
Red9zero said:
Seen those on the local marked patrol cars. I assume it's to reduce the number of holes they need to drill in the car.
Means they can easily be sold on as "one careful owner" cars 
No variant available to the public, neither new nor used.
Blakewater said:
It's what they have in the USA. One platform with a sedan or SUV body. Being marketed across the USA, it has a large market. Such a thing would need a larger market than the UK. Plus we have different cars for traffic, local patrols, countryside work, etc.
Vauxhall certainly used to produce "service" specific cars for the UK. I have been to their special vehicles spot before in a past life on a shopping trip.
I know Ford used to be doing the same thing for UK specific services from general police vehicles up to more "interesting" stuff.
The more interesting stuff never sees the roads again after they have completed their work life. Some of the more gucci military units have done away with using special vehicles and just "make do" with AMG / RS / M etc.
As for spotting regular traffic cars, becoming a lot harder these days. Smoked LEDs seem to be the in thing now, so once they are hidden they are very hard to spot. No more need for external airwave antenna or GPS either.
By far the biggest tell now is someone driving with a light dusting of road craft stands out like a sore thumb!!
gotoPzero said:
Vauxhall certainly used to produce "service" specific cars for the UK.
I have been to their special vehicles spot before in a past life on a shopping trip.
I know Ford used to be doing the same thing for UK specific services from general police vehicles up to more "interesting" stuff.
The more interesting stuff never sees the roads again after they have completed their work life. Some of the more gucci military units have done away with using special vehicles and just "make do" with AMG / RS / M etc.
As for spotting regular traffic cars, becoming a lot harder these days. Smoked LEDs seem to be the in thing now, so once they are hidden they are very hard to spot. No more need for external airwave antenna or GPS either.
By far the biggest tell now is someone driving with a light dusting of road craft stands out like a sore thumb!!
There's a national purchasing framework where the specs for specific roles are detailed I have been to their special vehicles spot before in a past life on a shopping trip.
I know Ford used to be doing the same thing for UK specific services from general police vehicles up to more "interesting" stuff.
The more interesting stuff never sees the roads again after they have completed their work life. Some of the more gucci military units have done away with using special vehicles and just "make do" with AMG / RS / M etc.
As for spotting regular traffic cars, becoming a lot harder these days. Smoked LEDs seem to be the in thing now, so once they are hidden they are very hard to spot. No more need for external airwave antenna or GPS either.
By far the biggest tell now is someone driving with a light dusting of road craft stands out like a sore thumb!!
ie UBP ( unit beat patrol )
Cell Van
Advanced/Traffic
Etc
Manufacturers are invited to tender for contracts to supply "utilities spec" vehicles
Certain low volume and niche vehicles can be purchased outside the tender process however
Tendering is based on whole life costs and that includes predicted resale values. They don't scrap vehicles if they can sell them so armoured vehicles will have the armour stripped out before sale or be sold abroad
unsprung said:
cuprabob said:
Red9zero said:
Seen those on the local marked patrol cars. I assume it's to reduce the number of holes they need to drill in the car.
Means they can easily be sold on as "one careful owner" cars No variant available to the public, neither new nor used.
I think GM had police variants back in the day.
Although not sure what happened to them once they had finished with them.
the-norseman said:
Surprised to see the car registered on a Milton Keynes plate when Volvo UK's HQ isn't in MK.
The vehicle will be registered most likely at the local force. We used to do it until we realised it was adding weeks onto the process, so now our number plates are from all over.
Plus might not even be a police vehicle.
Earthdweller said:
There's a national purchasing framework where the specs for specific roles are detailed
ie UBP ( unit beat patrol )
Cell Van
Advanced/Traffic
Etc
Manufacturers are invited to tender for contracts to supply "utilities spec" vehicles
Certain low volume and niche vehicles can be purchased outside the tender process however
Tendering is based on whole life costs and that includes predicted resale values. They don't scrap vehicles if they can sell them so armoured vehicles will have the armour stripped out before sale or be sold abroad
Law enforcement is insane in the US, what the fie UBP ( unit beat patrol )
Cell Van
Advanced/Traffic
Etc
Manufacturers are invited to tender for contracts to supply "utilities spec" vehicles
Certain low volume and niche vehicles can be purchased outside the tender process however
Tendering is based on whole life costs and that includes predicted resale values. They don't scrap vehicles if they can sell them so armoured vehicles will have the armour stripped out before sale or be sold abroad
k does ICE need an armoured car for? It's questionable whether it's even appropriate for a SWAT team, it definitely has no place in everyday law enforcement, along with routinely wandering around in body armour, ballistic helmets and an automatic rifle like it's the Battle of Fallujah or they've ram-raided a paint-balling shop rather than kidnapping frightened unarmed people in their pants. hidetheelephants said:
Law enforcement is insane in the US, what the fk does ICE need an armoured car for? It's questionable whether it's even appropriate for a SWAT team, it definitely has no place in everyday law enforcement, along with routinely wandering around in body armour, ballistic helmets and an automatic rifle like it's the Battle of Fallujah or they've ram-raided a paint-balling shop rather than kidnapping frightened unarmed people in their pants.
I assume you are trolling, if not I've saw several news reports of agents getting doxxed and their houses and families being targeted. Also quite a few incidents of them being shot at, bricks and petrol bombs thrown at them. I think they are actually being quite reserved given the threat they are under.k does ICE need an armoured car for? It's questionable whether it's even appropriate for a SWAT team, it definitely has no place in everyday law enforcement, along with routinely wandering around in body armour, ballistic helmets and an automatic rifle like it's the Battle of Fallujah or they've ram-raided a paint-balling shop rather than kidnapping frightened unarmed people in their pants. LosingGrip said:
The vehicle will be registered most likely at the local force.
We used to do it until we realised it was adding weeks onto the process, so now our number plates are from all over.
Plus might not even be a police vehicle.
All Volvo UK cars are MK-registered. Not sure why although having a training base in Daventry may have something to do with it?We used to do it until we realised it was adding weeks onto the process, so now our number plates are from all over.
Plus might not even be a police vehicle.
Megaflow said:
I have got no idea what this has got to do with Bond, but damn that is going to be a hard unmarked to pick out, all the normal tell tale signs, lights, aerials, etc are all gone...
You will notice there's no marker on the plate about who sold it. That's one of the only signs remaining these days, apart from the manner of driving (which is usually a great giveaway but also usually way too late!)paul_c123 said:
Isn't it something to do with the difference between unmarked and covert?
Proper covert stuff I don't personally care about identifying, I am only bothered about those who are stopping me from driving as fast as I like. Clearly there's nothing stopping the police or MI5 or whoever being indistinguishable from anyone but those guys are not bothered about me doint 140 on the M11, if we encounter each other they are probably trying to get past.The point is to identify trafpol. A task that was piss easy when I started out driving that is getting harder by the year. Especially before it's too late!
We are so spoiled in this country by their rarity though. There is at least that.
Also unless it's changed the law says you only have to pull over for police in uniform. So total camouflage is impossible anyway.
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Monday 28th July 02:13
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