Why don t immigrants want to stay in France?

Why don t immigrants want to stay in France?

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DSLiverpool

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15,471 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th July
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Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.

I’m told we’re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?

France is safe and warm plus it’s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?

Ian Geary

5,006 posts

207 months

Sunday 6th July
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Je ne said pas, but it's worth remembering an awful lot of migrants into the EU do stay in continental Europe.

BikeBikeBIke

11,677 posts

130 months

Sunday 6th July
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DSLiverpool said:
Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.

I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?

France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
I've got a horrible feeling it's because of the English language. (among all the other reasons.)

tangerine_sedge

5,748 posts

233 months

Sunday 6th July
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There's almost as many threads on immigration than there are immigrants. Perhaps the mods can create a new sub forum for those threads...

valiant

12,290 posts

175 months

Sunday 6th July
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I think it's been about a week since the last time it was discussed so let's all get out our bullst bingo cards and eyes down for a full house.

Hoofy

78,528 posts

297 months

Sunday 6th July
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It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.

valiant said:
I think it's been about a week since the last time it was discussed so let's all get out our bullst bingo cards and eyes down for a full house.
hehe


don'tbesilly

15,361 posts

178 months

Sunday 6th July
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DSLiverpool said:
Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.

I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?

France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
It’s a strange state of affairs when the migrants in France want to swop this:



For somewhere like the Madely Court Hotel:



It makes no sense!

BOR

4,996 posts

270 months

Sunday 6th July
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First hits on google:

AI Overview
In 2024, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, and Greece were the top five EU countries receiving the most first-time asylum applicants, collectively accounting for 82% of all applicants. Germany alone accounted for a quarter of all first-time applicants in the EU. While Germany received the highest absolute number of applications, countries like Cyprus and Greece saw the most applications per capita.
Asylum in the EU: Facts and Figures | Epthinktank | European ...
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Germany: Received the highest number of first-time asylum applicants in 2024 (229,695).
Spain: Second highest with 164,010 first-time applicants.
Italy: Third with 151,120 first-time applicants.
France: Fourth with 130,860 first-time applicants.

The UK?
AI Overview
Asylum accommodation in the UK - Migration Observatory - The ...
In the year ending March 2025, the UK received 109,343 asylum applications, a 17% increase compared to the previous year and a record high since 1979, according to UK government statistics. This figure includes individuals and their dependents. The UK's asylum system also faces a backlog, with around 91,000 applications awaiting initial decisions at the end of December 2024.

You take LESS than France.

The asylum seekers you see in Calais have been offered processing by the French, but reject it in favour of the UK.

Why? Same reason as you if you had links to a specific country or could speak the language.

The Mad Monk

10,630 posts

132 months

Sunday 6th July
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FEWER

Paul Dishman

4,993 posts

252 months

Sunday 6th July
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It’d be interesting to know what asylum seekers/migrants think their reception in the UK will be from the local populace.

Do they think they’ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?

768

16,647 posts

111 months

Sunday 6th July
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Because of war apparently. You'd have thought the BBC would be covering it.

DSLiverpool

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15,471 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th July
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768 said:
Because of war apparently. You'd have thought the BBC would be covering it.
I didn’t know France was at war.

Ian Geary

5,006 posts

207 months

Sunday 6th July
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Hoofy said:
It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.
I'm not sure who told you that? But they were lying.

Some asylum seekers had to be moved out of ex MOD bases because it was so poor.

Round our way the "boat people " as Facebook likes to call them stay in ex-airport hotels. Some are "only" 3 star, but goggling how the star ratings work: it's essentially meaningless for asylum seekers.

Ie onsite laundry? Pointless, as I doubt they'll spend any of the £49 a week they get on hotel dry cleaning.

Another example of a 4 star hotel: help with luggage- again, pointless for obvious reasons.



I can believe the 5 year bot, given how shockingly bad the previous government let the assessment service get.


So whilst there is a discussion to be had about the relative merits (or otherwise) of the UK for asylum seekers, repeating tripe like the above adds zero to the thinking on it. In fact, it detracts from it.

It probably sounds funny down the pub, or in the daily mail comments column, but has no place in any sensible discussion. I guess people have to choose what they want this forum to be.

E63eeeeee...

5,072 posts

64 months

Sunday 6th July
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Paul Dishman said:
It d be interesting to know what asylum seekers/migrants think their reception in the UK will be from the local populace.

Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Although not interested enough to Google and read any of the half dozen or so investigations into this done by various media organisations over the last decade, I guess.

Which is also the answer to the OP. Of course what this thread will most likely turn into is a bunch of people with no real knowledge or expertise, spouting off with uninformed nonsense, despite the fact they haven't bothered to do even the basic research into the available information on the subject, which includes reading freely available interviews with the actual people answering the actual question.

So just another PH immigration thread, in essence.

valiant

12,290 posts

175 months

Sunday 6th July
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DSLiverpool said:
768 said:
Because of war apparently. You'd have thought the BBC would be covering it.
I didn t know France was at war.
No but many other countries are.

Should we let the countries neighbouring the various warzones carry the full burden?

We were happy to take around 250k Ukrainians so why didn't they stay in Poland which is a safe country?

How many should we take then? Most major European countries take more than us so how many should we take bearing in mind that a large percentage of the boat migrants are ultimately successful in claiming asylum?

768

16,647 posts

111 months

Sunday 6th July
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Ian Geary said:
Hoofy said:
It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.
I'm not sure who told you that? But they were lying.
They say it themselves.

chrispmartha

19,095 posts

144 months

Sunday 6th July
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DSLiverpool said:
Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.

I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?

France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
More stay in France than come here.

zb

3,264 posts

179 months

Sunday 6th July
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The Mad Monk said:
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Don't call him that...yet.


Furbo

1,281 posts

47 months

Sunday 6th July
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DSLiverpool said:
Why don t immigrants want to stay in France?
The French.

Paul Dishman

4,993 posts

252 months

Sunday 6th July
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E63eeeeee... said:
Paul Dishman said:
It d be interesting to know what asylum seekers/migrants think their reception in the UK will be from the local populace.

Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Although not interested enough to Google and read any of the half dozen or so investigations into this done by various media organisations over the last decade, I guess.

Which is also the answer to the OP. Of course what this thread will most likely turn into is a bunch of people with no real knowledge or expertise, spouting off with uninformed nonsense, despite the fact they haven't bothered to do even the basic research into the available information on the subject, which includes reading freely available interviews with the actual people answering the actual question.

So just another PH immigration thread, in essence.
If the concept of having a discussion is beyond you or if you’re bored by another PH immigration thread, then why bother posting here?