Why don t immigrants want to stay in France?
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DSLiverpool said:
Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.
I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?
France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
I've got a horrible feeling it's because of the English language. (among all the other reasons.)I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?
France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.
valiant said:
I think it's been about a week since the last time it was discussed so let's all get out our bulls
t bingo cards and eyes down for a full house.
t bingo cards and eyes down for a full house.DSLiverpool said:
Illegal ones not ones we actively recruit.
I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?
France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
It’s a strange state of affairs when the migrants in France want to swop this:I m told we re a softer touch, they all have relatives here etc but is thst it?
France is safe and warm plus it s a lot bigger than England so better suited surely?
For somewhere like the Madely Court Hotel:
It makes no sense!
First hits on google:
AI Overview
In 2024, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, and Greece were the top five EU countries receiving the most first-time asylum applicants, collectively accounting for 82% of all applicants. Germany alone accounted for a quarter of all first-time applicants in the EU. While Germany received the highest absolute number of applications, countries like Cyprus and Greece saw the most applications per capita.
Asylum in the EU: Facts and Figures | Epthinktank | European ...
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Germany: Received the highest number of first-time asylum applicants in 2024 (229,695).
Spain: Second highest with 164,010 first-time applicants.
Italy: Third with 151,120 first-time applicants.
France: Fourth with 130,860 first-time applicants.
The UK?
AI Overview
Asylum accommodation in the UK - Migration Observatory - The ...
In the year ending March 2025, the UK received 109,343 asylum applications, a 17% increase compared to the previous year and a record high since 1979, according to UK government statistics. This figure includes individuals and their dependents. The UK's asylum system also faces a backlog, with around 91,000 applications awaiting initial decisions at the end of December 2024.
You take LESS than France.
The asylum seekers you see in Calais have been offered processing by the French, but reject it in favour of the UK.
Why? Same reason as you if you had links to a specific country or could speak the language.
AI Overview
In 2024, Germany, Spain, Italy, France, and Greece were the top five EU countries receiving the most first-time asylum applicants, collectively accounting for 82% of all applicants. Germany alone accounted for a quarter of all first-time applicants in the EU. While Germany received the highest absolute number of applications, countries like Cyprus and Greece saw the most applications per capita.
Asylum in the EU: Facts and Figures | Epthinktank | European ...
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Germany: Received the highest number of first-time asylum applicants in 2024 (229,695).
Spain: Second highest with 164,010 first-time applicants.
Italy: Third with 151,120 first-time applicants.
France: Fourth with 130,860 first-time applicants.
The UK?
AI Overview
Asylum accommodation in the UK - Migration Observatory - The ...
In the year ending March 2025, the UK received 109,343 asylum applications, a 17% increase compared to the previous year and a record high since 1979, according to UK government statistics. This figure includes individuals and their dependents. The UK's asylum system also faces a backlog, with around 91,000 applications awaiting initial decisions at the end of December 2024.
You take LESS than France.
The asylum seekers you see in Calais have been offered processing by the French, but reject it in favour of the UK.
Why? Same reason as you if you had links to a specific country or could speak the language.
Hoofy said:
It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.
I'm not sure who told you that? But they were lying.Some asylum seekers had to be moved out of ex MOD bases because it was so poor.
Round our way the "boat people " as Facebook likes to call them stay in ex-airport hotels. Some are "only" 3 star, but goggling how the star ratings work: it's essentially meaningless for asylum seekers.
Ie onsite laundry? Pointless, as I doubt they'll spend any of the £49 a week they get on hotel dry cleaning.
Another example of a 4 star hotel: help with luggage- again, pointless for obvious reasons.
I can believe the 5 year bot, given how shockingly bad the previous government let the assessment service get.
So whilst there is a discussion to be had about the relative merits (or otherwise) of the UK for asylum seekers, repeating tripe like the above adds zero to the thinking on it. In fact, it detracts from it.
It probably sounds funny down the pub, or in the daily mail comments column, but has no place in any sensible discussion. I guess people have to choose what they want this forum to be.
Paul Dishman said:
It d be interesting to know what asylum seekers/migrants think their reception in the UK will be from the local populace.
Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Although not interested enough to Google and read any of the half dozen or so investigations into this done by various media organisations over the last decade, I guess. Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Which is also the answer to the OP. Of course what this thread will most likely turn into is a bunch of people with no real knowledge or expertise, spouting off with uninformed nonsense, despite the fact they haven't bothered to do even the basic research into the available information on the subject, which includes reading freely available interviews with the actual people answering the actual question.
So just another PH immigration thread, in essence.
DSLiverpool said:
768 said:
Because of war apparently. You'd have thought the BBC would be covering it.
I didn t know France was at war.Should we let the countries neighbouring the various warzones carry the full burden?
We were happy to take around 250k Ukrainians so why didn't they stay in Poland which is a safe country?
How many should we take then? Most major European countries take more than us so how many should we take bearing in mind that a large percentage of the boat migrants are ultimately successful in claiming asylum?
Ian Geary said:
Hoofy said:
It's a good question. As above, I think the English language is part of it. Also living free of charge in a 4 star hotel for 5 years sounds good to me. I might stand on a Dover beach at 6am tomorrow and see if anyone comes to give me a free 6 month holiday in a 4 star in Cornwall.
I'm not sure who told you that? But they were lying.
E63eeeeee... said:
Paul Dishman said:
It d be interesting to know what asylum seekers/migrants think their reception in the UK will be from the local populace.
Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Although not interested enough to Google and read any of the half dozen or so investigations into this done by various media organisations over the last decade, I guess. Do they think they ll be welcomed or receive a more hostile reception?
Which is also the answer to the OP. Of course what this thread will most likely turn into is a bunch of people with no real knowledge or expertise, spouting off with uninformed nonsense, despite the fact they haven't bothered to do even the basic research into the available information on the subject, which includes reading freely available interviews with the actual people answering the actual question.
So just another PH immigration thread, in essence.
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