V12V Manual Values

[Fast_cars_more_fun]

Interested to hear people’s thoughts on the V12 Vantage values? Specifically 2009-13 manual gearbox.

[Minglar]

Values have been fairly stable for a while. U.K. prices (coupé) are generally in the £60,000 to £80,000 price range. There is usually a bit more supply during the summer months but imho I think most owners are holding on to their cars now and finding a good one is becoming increasingly difficult. Some people think prices should have risen in a similar vein to manual DBS values but so far there has been no real sign of that. The biggest concerns for a prospective buyer are the condition of the CCBs and any engine related issues, ie the dreaded V12 tick or possible primary cat ingestion, all very expensive to fix. A well looked after car should have none of these concerns. They are quite a rare sight in the U.K. As far as I know there were only about 360 cars produced for the U.K. market. BRM.

[melhuishjames]

Massively undervalued in my opinion (I am biased).

BUT that just means I don’t stress about using and enjoying mine. Not worrying about values, or treating it like an investment, hugely charismatic car to drive and enjoy.

CCBs are not an issue as long as correctly looked after. I’m with Mingler, I think those that know and own good ones are just keeping hold now. Values don’t motivate selling, what do you replace them with at a similar price point?

I think in the LONG term they will go up in value but nothing life changing in near future.

[gubsta]

Agree with what's been said - I think they are the bargain of the century.
Brake issues are overblown and very easy to identify bad discs from good.

Mine has a secondary decat and Nitron suspension and I can't think of anything at twice the price I'd rather own. At the price it's that or a Cayman GT4 (yawn) where ythe gearing is just too long for road use to be any fun.

The only thing that tickles the fancy is a manual GT3 of some flavour but that's nowhere near as cool.

So to answer the question can't see them getting any lower and I agree good ones are getting tucked away as they find their keepers.

[Fast_cars_more_fun]

Thanks for your feedback. I get little use out of mine and have considered changing, but change my mind once I drive it again and hear the V12! I was careful to get a good one, so CCBs and the ‘hyped’ cat ingestion doesn’t concern me. I’ve looked at various ones that are for sale on Autotrader over the years (noting only 4x on Autotrader today), and once you zoom in on the photos you can see the condition concerns on some.

I think these cars are at the bottom of their depreciation curve now, so I think it’ll remain in the garage medium term. Not that I class it as an investment in anyway. I just know if I sell it I won’t be content on having an empty garage space!

[Minglar]

Fast_cars_more_fun said:

Thanks for your feedback. I get little use out of mine and have considered changing, but change my mind once I drive it again and hear the V12! I was careful to get a good one, so CCBs and the hyped cat ingestion doesn t concern me. I ve looked at various ones that are for sale on Autotrader over the years (noting only 4x on Autotrader today), and once you zoom in on the photos you can see the condition concerns on some.

I think these cars are at the bottom of their depreciation curve now, so I think it ll remain in the garage medium term. Not that I class it as an investment in anyway. I just know if I sell it I won t be content on having an empty garage space!

Your comments and those above pretty much sum up my situation too. Mrs Minglar has never really been keen on travelling as a passenger in mine and has no interest in driving it either, so most of our joint trips are done in her SUV (not an AM). As a result my car doesn’t get a huge amount of use nowadays and I often find myself taking it out for a long drive on my own just for the thrill of it. I’ve had my car longer than any other car I’ve owned and it was pretty much brand new when I bought it so I know its provenance and how it’s been cared for and serviced etc. Sometimes Mrs Minglar questions why I haven’t sold it, but I know I’d miss it, and for the money I’d get I can’t really think of anything comparable that I would want to replace it with. Every time I visit my AM MD they ask me if I’d be interested in selling as they think it would shift easily. There’s clearly demand for these cars but supply really has dwindled over the last few years so one has to assume people are holding on to them. None of the latest range really appeals to me. They are undoubtedly superb vehicles but I don’t really see the point of trading up. The cost to change is hard to justify and imho not really worth it. I would imagine that many owners feel the same. BRM.

[Fast_cars_more_fun]

Exactly the same here. I’ve been looking at what I’d like to swap it with and there’s nothing I’d consider without having to fork out £20-30K; only for another car to sit in the garage after the initial honeymoon period ends! We have two kids, so days out or weekends away with the wife is non existent. Keep for now I think, with the few cars & coffee / trips out with my son.

[Andy_67C]

I sometimes debate selling mine. The question I’ve never been able to answer is what I’d want as a replacement. There’s not much I fancy. Anything I do is generally more expensive. 458/Huracan/720 all appeal. However, they are all notably more expensive, more popular and sometimes even harder to fix. Add the mileage paranoia the various owners all create, I default back to keeping a v12v in the garage and kicking around in my old TVRs, not really caring about how many miles I do and just enjoying it whenever I get a day off.

I’ve never bought my cars as investments (generally never keep them long enough). However, I do think the V12V has pretty much hit the bottom of depreciation and it makes it easier to justify keeping hold of the car even when I’m not using it as much as I’d like. It’s always nice knowing I’m not going to take a bath on its value, and I may be lucky enough to endure some small amounts of appreciation. In the long term, I suspect it’ll increase - getting a good one is increasingly difficult. I believe the parkway ads have been listed for over a year on Autotrader leaving only a couple of examples available at the moment.

[melhuishjames]

Andy_67C said:

I sometimes debate selling mine. The question I ve never been able to answer is what I d want as a replacement. There s not much I fancy. Anything I do is generally more expensive. 458/Huracan/720 all appeal. However, they are all notably more expensive, more popular and sometimes even harder to fix. Add the mileage paranoia the various owners all create, I default back to keeping a v12v in the garage and kicking around in my old TVRs, not really caring about how many miles I do and just enjoying it whenever I get a day off.

I ve never bought my cars as investments (generally never keep them long enough). However, I do think the V12V has pretty much hit the bottom of depreciation and it makes it easier to justify keeping hold of the car even when I m not using it as much as I d like. It s always nice knowing I m not going to take a bath on its value, and I may be lucky enough to endure some small amounts of appreciation. In the long term, I suspect it ll increase - getting a good one is increasingly difficult. I believe the parkway ads have been listed for over a year on Autotrader leaving only a couple of examples available at the moment.

Mirrors my outlook..