Pug cambelt question
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Hi, new to site and looking for some help….
I’ve a 2019 Pug 308 GT Line with 77k.
Recently developed engine oil pressure problems and had it inspected by an independent garage.
Long story short, the engine has no compression and have been advised to either rebuild or replace.
After some online investigation I have found that Peugeot reduced the service interval from 100k/10 years to 60k/6 years. Does anyone know when this was reduced?
It is also to my understanding the belt design has been revised a few times and the recommended oil grade has also been changed.
I’m disputing with both Peugeot and the finance company but need to gather evidence on when this reduction of the service interval was made.
Any help will be much appreciated, thanks in advance 👍🏻
I’ve a 2019 Pug 308 GT Line with 77k.
Recently developed engine oil pressure problems and had it inspected by an independent garage.
Long story short, the engine has no compression and have been advised to either rebuild or replace.
After some online investigation I have found that Peugeot reduced the service interval from 100k/10 years to 60k/6 years. Does anyone know when this was reduced?
It is also to my understanding the belt design has been revised a few times and the recommended oil grade has also been changed.
I’m disputing with both Peugeot and the finance company but need to gather evidence on when this reduction of the service interval was made.
Any help will be much appreciated, thanks in advance 👍🏻
It's worth checking with a Peugeot dealership using the car's VIN to see if there's a recall or 'Technical Contribution' for the wet belt outstanding against the car. If there is a 'TC' then Peugeot will contribute towards repair until a certain age/mileage is reached - there may be preconditions such as FSH etc.
If you go down the route of a dispute with Peugeot, be prepared to prove service history including the correct oil (check the service book - the standard is something like B712312) has been used, as the oil with the correct additive pack is critical to the life of the timing belt. Lots of short trips diluting the engine oil with fuel will also dramatically shorten the belt life; if the car is subject to this use it's very important to use the arduous servicing regime. From memory, the "new" timing belt interval is the originally quoted arduous interval.
I'm not sure exactly when the interval was moved - from memory around 2020. I used to work at a PSA dealership & my Dad ran a C3 1.2 with the PureTech engine, so while not an expert, I've got a little knowledge around them!
If you go down the route of a dispute with Peugeot, be prepared to prove service history including the correct oil (check the service book - the standard is something like B712312) has been used, as the oil with the correct additive pack is critical to the life of the timing belt. Lots of short trips diluting the engine oil with fuel will also dramatically shorten the belt life; if the car is subject to this use it's very important to use the arduous servicing regime. From memory, the "new" timing belt interval is the originally quoted arduous interval.
I'm not sure exactly when the interval was moved - from memory around 2020. I used to work at a PSA dealership & my Dad ran a C3 1.2 with the PureTech engine, so while not an expert, I've got a little knowledge around them!
Edited by itcaptainslow on Tuesday 24th June 18:09
Edited by itcaptainslow on Tuesday 24th June 18:10
Thanks for replying .
I’ve done the recall check through the Peugeot website that said there was no recall.
Cars been fully serviced and stamped when due by an independent garage we have used for the best part of 20 years.
Service parts and oil have all been bought from Euro car parts and it was always total Quartz did note the recommended oil has changed several times since I bought the car in 2022 from 0w30 to 0w20 and the last service in March it was 5w30. My first though is this has possibly added the the degradation of the belt.
I also used to work in a Peugeot dealership in sales but these puretech engines were relatively new at the the time so the wet belt problem wasn’t common knowledge like it is now.
Stellantis did offer extended warranty in March 2024 but I don’t think it was well communicated and they also opened an online portal for compensation for problems relating to oil pressure/consuption between Jan 2022 and Dec 2024.
Been quoted in the region of £3k-£5k to have the engine replaced.
Peugeot have told me they are unwilling to contribute to any repairs due to them reducing the timing belt replacement schedule and the car currently sitting at 77k miles so I think I will need to push on the finance company to get the problem sorted.
I’ve done the recall check through the Peugeot website that said there was no recall.
Cars been fully serviced and stamped when due by an independent garage we have used for the best part of 20 years.
Service parts and oil have all been bought from Euro car parts and it was always total Quartz did note the recommended oil has changed several times since I bought the car in 2022 from 0w30 to 0w20 and the last service in March it was 5w30. My first though is this has possibly added the the degradation of the belt.
I also used to work in a Peugeot dealership in sales but these puretech engines were relatively new at the the time so the wet belt problem wasn’t common knowledge like it is now.
Stellantis did offer extended warranty in March 2024 but I don’t think it was well communicated and they also opened an online portal for compensation for problems relating to oil pressure/consuption between Jan 2022 and Dec 2024.
Been quoted in the region of £3k-£5k to have the engine replaced.
Peugeot have told me they are unwilling to contribute to any repairs due to them reducing the timing belt replacement schedule and the car currently sitting at 77k miles so I think I will need to push on the finance company to get the problem sorted.
Stumcq123 said:
Thanks for replying .
I ve done the recall check through the Peugeot website that said there was no recall.
Cars been fully serviced and stamped when due by an independent garage we have used for the best part of 20 years.
Service parts and oil have all been bought from Euro car parts and it was always total Quartz did note the recommended oil has changed several times since I bought the car in 2022 from 0w30 to 0w20 and the last service in March it was 5w30. My first though is this has possibly added the the degradation of the belt.
I also used to work in a Peugeot dealership in sales but these puretech engines were relatively new at the the time so the wet belt problem wasn t common knowledge like it is now.
Stellantis did offer extended warranty in March 2024 but I don t think it was well communicated and they also opened an online portal for compensation for problems relating to oil pressure/consuption between Jan 2022 and Dec 2024.
Been quoted in the region of £3k-£5k to have the engine replaced.
Peugeot have told me they are unwilling to contribute to any repairs due to them reducing the timing belt replacement schedule and the car currently sitting at 77k miles so I think I will need to push on the finance company to get the problem sorted.
Such a nightmare situation, I do feel for you. I got stung in similar fashion with a 1.2 5008 which was giving the oil pressure warning every 15-20 miles, and where the warranty company, supplying dealer and even Peugeot themselves washed their hands of any responsibility to diagnose and repair. I ve done the recall check through the Peugeot website that said there was no recall.
Cars been fully serviced and stamped when due by an independent garage we have used for the best part of 20 years.
Service parts and oil have all been bought from Euro car parts and it was always total Quartz did note the recommended oil has changed several times since I bought the car in 2022 from 0w30 to 0w20 and the last service in March it was 5w30. My first though is this has possibly added the the degradation of the belt.
I also used to work in a Peugeot dealership in sales but these puretech engines were relatively new at the the time so the wet belt problem wasn t common knowledge like it is now.
Stellantis did offer extended warranty in March 2024 but I don t think it was well communicated and they also opened an online portal for compensation for problems relating to oil pressure/consuption between Jan 2022 and Dec 2024.
Been quoted in the region of £3k-£5k to have the engine replaced.
Peugeot have told me they are unwilling to contribute to any repairs due to them reducing the timing belt replacement schedule and the car currently sitting at 77k miles so I think I will need to push on the finance company to get the problem sorted.
Faced with a choice between a mountain of hassle or a significant bill, I bit the bullet and punted it into the trade at a £3k loss - only for Peugeot to issue a recall literally the following week.
Fingers crossed you get it sorted to your satisfaction.
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