BBR GTi - Super 200 - Any experiences?

[JFReturns]

Morning all,

I’ve done a search on BBR and read all the threads and was wondering if anyone had any experience / feedback on the company and the conversion I’m thinking about?

My Mx5 is the 2.0 ND2 184PS and I was considering:

- Super 200 (catted manifold)
- GT backbox

And possibly:

- Lowering springs
- Centre section exhaust

Would like a less muted exhaust tone but definitely nothing drony, far too old for that

Pic of my MX5 to make this thread slightly more interesting:

[Nickp82]

My BBR experience is Mk3 based so probably not entirely relevant but for what it’s worth;

I have driven a lot of MX-5s (mainly mark 3&4) , probably the best if not the best was a mark 3 with the 200 package plus upgraded suspension , exhaust (BBR Supersport I think ) and a BBR geo set up. It was so much fun, quicker than standard obviously but still able to work it hard without going crazy speeds and retains the core character of the car. I would recommend the 200 to anyone who is using their MX only on the road.

I have a mk3 with the BBR supercharger kit as a track car and when I’ve needed things from BBR I’ve had no issues and found their service to be good. The kit wasn’t installed by them.

[JFReturns]

Nickp82 said:

My BBR experience is Mk3 based so probably not entirely relevant but for what it s worth;

I have driven a lot of MX-5s (mainly mark 3&4) , probably the best if not the best was a mark 3 with the 200 package plus upgraded suspension , exhaust (BBR Supersport I think ) and a BBR geo set up. It was so much fun, quicker than standard obviously but still able to work it hard without going crazy speeds and retains the core character of the car. I would recommend the 200 to anyone who is using their MX only on the road.

I have a mk3 with the BBR supercharger kit as a track car and when I ve needed things from BBR I ve had no issues and found their service to be good. The kit wasn t installed by them.

That all sounds great, thanks for the reply. I have booked mine in

[Belle427]

It would have benefitted you to head over to the MX5 owners club forums for a better idea of them.
Bit of a marmite company.

[JFReturns]

Belle427 said:

It would have benefitted you to head over to the MX5 owners club forums for a better idea of them.
Bit of a marmite company.

I’ll report back with experience in due course. So far, so good. Friendly and given the advice I needed

[handbraketurn]

Also can't speak for the ND, but don't think it's a huge difference in exhaust and engine from NC.

If you get the catted 4-2-1 manifold, and leave the standard centre section with a standard secondary cat and resonator, that should stop too much drone. It's the high flow or straight through centre pipe that really increases the drone.

My NC has centre and rear box, not BBR but IL Motorsport, it is a bit drone like on the motorway but bearable, just.

I met someone recently who had a decaf manifold and standard secondary cat mid pipe and he said he passed the MOT when car was up to temperature, but appreciate it's a bit of a risk if it doesn't as you're left with having to replace the manifold potentially.

[JFReturns]

handbraketurn said:

Also can't speak for the ND, but don't think it's a huge difference in exhaust and engine from NC.

If you get the catted 4-2-1 manifold, and leave the standard centre section with a standard secondary cat and resonator, that should stop too much drone. It's the high flow or straight through centre pipe that really increases the drone.

My NC has centre and rear box, not BBR but IL Motorsport, it is a bit drone like on the motorway but bearable, just.

I met someone recently who had a decaf manifold and standard secondary cat mid pipe and he said he passed the MOT when car was up to temperature, but appreciate it's a bit of a risk if it doesn't as you're left with having to replace the manifold potentially.

Thanks for the reply. I’ve gone for the catted manifold, centre section standard and GT backbox. Hopefully will make a nicer noise than standard but not drone.

Didn’t want to worry about passing MOT so went catted manifold at BBR’s advice.

[handbraketurn]

JFReturns said:

handbraketurn said:

Also can't speak for the ND, but don't think it's a huge difference in exhaust and engine from NC.

If you get the catted 4-2-1 manifold, and leave the standard centre section with a standard secondary cat and resonator, that should stop too much drone. It's the high flow or straight through centre pipe that really increases the drone.

My NC has centre and rear box, not BBR but IL Motorsport, it is a bit drone like on the motorway but bearable, just.

I met someone recently who had a decaf manifold and standard secondary cat mid pipe and he said he passed the MOT when car was up to temperature, but appreciate it's a bit of a risk if it doesn't as you're left with having to replace the manifold potentially.

Thanks for the reply. I ve gone for the catted manifold, centre section standard and GT backbox. Hopefully will make a nicer noise than standard but not drone.

Didn t want to worry about passing MOT so went catted manifold at BBR s advice.

Yes, wise choice. Don't think a well known tuner like BBR can really give any tiger advice than car being MOT compliant.

I don't think it makes a huge amount of difference in BHP, its just that with N/A tuning, you're spending a lot of money for 20-25BHP gains, so even a 5bhp reduction is quite a lot in terms of the overall percentage. That said, it's still going to feel a lot more responsive and have more pick up than standard. I think also the maps just give a more aggressive power curve making it more usable for spirited driving.

How long did you it take to get a slot at BBR out of interest?

[JFReturns]

handbraketurn said:

How long did you it take to get a slot at BBR out of interest?

I’ve got it booked about two months after I called, but then I specified the dates because I have some time off then. Not sure if they could have done it sooner.