Are there many standard S2's with air-con.? Do i need it???
Are there many standard S2's with air-con.? Do i need it???
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qwertyuiop7

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4 posts

253 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Im looking at buying a standard S2 and quite like the idea of air-con as i intend to use it as my only car. I have limited my choice already by insisting on a short roof model and by only liking 2 colours. Are there many out there with air-con or will i be waiting for a car that might never come up for sale.? Do i really need it??? Is it any good.??

If i manage to find the fight car without it, is it possible to retro fit it, DIY fitting wouldn't be a problem. If so any idea how much the kit is?

Phil

piooly

1,176 posts

255 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Air con is a must if you use it as your only car. I want it for my S1 but at £2000, forget it. It can be fitted to the S2 for a lot less cause it can be bought as an optional extra on the new car, which means, there is space for it somewhere in the car too.

Good luck..

RobM77

35,349 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I may well be buying an S2 soon as well. I'm not that bothered about air con in an ordinary car unless it is very hot, but I did notice that the Elise that I test drove got quite hot quite quickly with the hood up. I wanted to try it without air con and the hoodup, just to see. Was this just because it was a warm day, or do Elises get that hot normally?

air con is quite rare on the 2nd hand market, and I only really like two colours as well!

any advice or thoughts greatly appreciated!

MJK 24

5,679 posts

266 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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My S2 hasn't got air con. I don't want it enough to swap my car but I would make sure my next Elise has it.

With the roof on on a hot but damp summers day you can get very warm.

Also, the heater in the air con cars is supposed to be far superior at demisting the screen etc on cold mornings.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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quite rare...more common on S2111S from 02 onwards...has to be fitted during production - cheaper to change cars than retro fit it........

maverick25

166 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Some would say that its a covertable so why would you need air con? however, personal experience dictates that I couldnt live without it. Even on a hot day with the roof off stuck in traffic, believe me, youll be glad you had it! with the roof on its essential, especially if your using it as your daily car.
have fun!!

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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yep - for a daily driver its recommended...I bought my car..and then one month later Lotus offered a deal - £1500 for aircon + hardtop ...could have sold the hardtop !

anyways..the main advantage on the S2 when you have aircon is that you get a much more powerful heater (that can actually heat the cabin in the winter) and its great for demisting on humid wet summers days.....theres nothing worse on a hot summers day..on the way to work/client with shirt n tie on...sat in a traffic jam actually cooking...and then arriving sodden with sweat !

of course at the weekend when you are in T shirt and shorts, its nice to top up your tan and you dont really need the aircon

gooby

9,269 posts

264 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I actually disagree. You do not need aircon, it is a lightweight sports car / convertable. Take the roof off. In total there have been about 3 -4 times this year when I would have used it. For those very few times I would rather not have the added weight, cost and anything that subtracts from performance is a big NO!

If it was an Exige, I would say get it, but not on a 'Liz!

If I need to cool down I get close to Twinpipe's Exige, he always has the aircon turned on.

Muncher

12,235 posts

279 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I also don't think you need it.

If it is hot, take the roof off, there have been no occassions this summer when I would have actually used it if I had it.

trance-raver

45 posts

254 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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all year round my windows fog up!!!...thank god for air con!!!...it will demist your screen in 30 seconds flat! but hey!..not end of the world if you cant get it..i did 3 years in an s1 and survived.

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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well maybe I sweat a lot...but roof off sat in traffic for 30 mins at a time its friggin hot and Id kill for aircon ..of course its fine when you are moving

the aircon weighs 15Kg and cuts out on full throttle...thats like the weight difference of half a tank of fuel......nothing to worry about for the comfort it brings :up

piooly

1,176 posts

255 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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I agree with Bogie, sat in traffic, you cook!! Over winter, its a must, like people say it will demist the windows straight away. If you get a bit wet, then get into the car, it will steam up big time. Put it this way, I wouldnt buy another elise without it. If I ever get a 111R or exige, it must have it!

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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dont get me wrong - if its for weekend/pleasure use and you want it as light as poss for trackdays etc then dont bother...but for a daily driver then I wouldnt buy another car of any description without it...during the summer, when I was using my Elise daily I actually took to wearing a t-shirt and getting changed into shirt and tie when I arrived !

lotusnick S2

251 posts

260 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Mine has it and I wouldn't do with out it.
As others said, on a hot summer day the A/C and the roof on makes the car a lot more usable.
Especially on long motorway journeys, where the chassis gets hot, you need the A/C even more.
Plus it demists the windows instantly.

At the end of the day, 15kg more makes no difference
and as Mark said it cuts off at full throttle-speed.

Mark, can you keep the A/C on the Honda coversions?

bogie

17,100 posts

302 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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no - no aircon on Honda etc conversions...no room for it

DJ111S

30,324 posts

257 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Another vote for air-con here. Sitting in a traffic jam in the rain is bad enough when you get the full mist/zero visibility thing but in hot weather it's unpleasant to say the least. I end up taking the car out when it's cooler i.e early morning or late evening.

shangani

3,069 posts

267 months

Sunday 2nd October 2005
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Have driven elises with and without. I personally wouldn't mind for the demisting side of things, but having spent 20 years in South Africa, I haven't felt really hot either in the car or out for the past couple of years. Cape Town at 40+ dgress in summer - yes please. Here if its hot - take the roof off. I suppose if you have a long commute in traffic it would be handy.

Esprit

6,373 posts

313 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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I would never have aircon in my 'liz.... never wanted it, never needed it

enjybenjy

928 posts

283 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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If you can get one with it, get it. If not, you'll deal with it. No big deal. I've got it in mine (and I was deliberately looking for it), it's a godsend on damp dewey mornings and the windows are all steamed up - works a treat. I use mine as my only car so didn't fancy wiping down the windows every morning. However, if it gets really hot in the car I just either have the roof off or open the window. Did use it in France though where it was humid and pissing down (hence roof on) and got ver hot in the car on a 4 hour journey, then you realise how useful it is.

ben_bubbles

16 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd October 2005
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i managed to find one with it, which like yourself was one of the things on my wish list when looking. i would have accepted one without if one had turned up but i'm REALLY glad i did get it.

as everyone else with it says, on warm days that its raining and in traffic its a god send as it gets very warm in the cabin. and this weekend when it's been cold the de-misting is brilliant because of it.