Mureka: Ai Generated music

[StevieBee]

Subscribed to this for the sole purpose of generating background tracks for video (part of my work) and being able to 'direct' the track has been hugely beneficial. Getting some really good music that fits far better than stock library stuff.

Anyway, started having a play with the lyric/song generation function. My word it's good! I've never written a song in my life but have penned two in the last half hour. Don't get me wrong - they're crap... but good crap.

But I still think this is one of those things in which you need to be an expert to get the best from so a musician or songwriter will always get a better result than I could muster.

Cracking fun though.

Anyone else using it?

[Hoofy]

I've tried various (not sure if Mureka or not). Nothing wrong with it. Pop cheese works the best. It's all a bit naff but as bg music to videos or whatever, it's fine. It struggled with ambient - it was desperate to put some kind of harmony on everything.

Just a side note: if you're planning on making money from the content you're creating, you may not have full rights which means any monetised activity may result in them taking the fees, not you. Read the licence carefully.

[StevieBee]

Hoofy said:

Just a side note: if you're planning on making money from the content you're creating, you may not have full rights which means any monetised activity may result in them taking the fees, not you. Read the licence carefully.

Yeah, that's a good point and something I looked at. The films I make are public information films for public sector, not all of which are for public viewing, so the only money I get is the fees from the client.

Interesting point though. Who owns the copyright to Ai generated songs?...... If I write the lyrics and sing a melody that it then recreates?

[Hoofy]

StevieBee said:

Hoofy said:

Just a side note: if you're planning on making money from the content you're creating, you may not have full rights which means any monetised activity may result in them taking the fees, not you. Read the licence carefully.

Yeah, that's a good point and something I looked at. The films I make are public information films for public sector, not all of which are for public viewing, so the only money I get is the fees from the client.

Interesting point though. Who owns the copyright to Ai generated songs?...... If I write the lyrics and sing a melody that it then recreates?

You need to read the licence. As for not being for public viewing, it doesn't matter - if you're making money out of it then you may be breaching the terms of use. Of course, getting caught is another matter.

[Terminator X]

Won't this be a killer blow for the music industry either now or when it has arithmetically got better. Doesn't sound great if you'll excuse the pun.

TX.

[StevieBee]

Terminator X said:

Won't this be a killer blow for the music industry either now or when it has arithmetically got better. Doesn't sound great if you'll excuse the pun.

TX.

Was thinking this same thing.

At the moment, I'd say it's a useful tool. As with photo and video, you need to have a decent grasp of the basics and a level of creative flair in order to write the prompts to generate something that's half way decent. A competent musician or songwriter will end up with something far better than someone who isn't.

Long-term; who knows?

[Hoofy]

Terminator X said:

Won't this be a killer blow for the music industry either now or when it has arithmetically got better. Doesn't sound great if you'll excuse the pun.

TX.

Maybe, from a technical viewpoint, but even if we plonk a generated hot chick in a video as the music influencer/star/whatever, she won't have the character/personality that people are drawn to. And you can't see her in concert. I suppose AI influencers are earning agencies money online already so they could still stick to online activities. So the way a musician could beat this is by being more "out there" and interacting with the crowds. Taylor Swift is good at this so taking a leaf or ten from her book is a good idea.

[boyse7en]

Hoofy said:

Terminator X said:

Won't this be a killer blow for the music industry either now or when it has arithmetically got better. Doesn't sound great if you'll excuse the pun.

TX.

Maybe, from a technical viewpoint, but even if we plonk a generated hot chick in a video as the music influencer/star/whatever, she won't have the character/personality that people are drawn to. And you can't see her in concert. I suppose AI influencers are earning agencies money online already so they could still stick to online activities. So the way a musician could beat this is by being more "out there" and interacting with the crowds. Taylor Swift is good at this so taking a leaf or ten from her book is a good idea.

AI might not have much of an effect on the Taylor Swifts and Billie Eilishs etc of the pop world, but it will be a real killer for the guys who write and perform backing tracks, film scores, advert jingles, etc.
And smaller bands, whose whole existence can be transformed if their track gets used on an advert or TV show, won't have that opportunity if "real" music is replaced by AI music because of costs

[Hoofy]

boyse7en said:

AI might not have much of an effect on the Taylor Swifts and Billie Eilishs etc of the pop world, but it will be a real killer for the guys who write and perform backing tracks, film scores, advert jingles, etc.
And smaller bands, whose whole existence can be transformed if their track gets used on an advert or TV show, won't have that opportunity if "real" music is replaced by AI music because of costs

That's true. Smaller artists will have to bring the human into it, then. If they build a fanbase, it will for instance boost a product's sales.