RE: VW Golf GTI Mk2 | PH Auction Block

RE: VW Golf GTI Mk2 | PH Auction Block

Tuesday 3rd June

VW Golf GTI Mk2 | PH Auction Block

Hot hatch heroes don't come much more heroic - or nicely preserved 


It’s June already, which means the big endurance events on the European calendar - Le Mans, Spa 24 and N24 - aren’t far away for 2025. The latter should be especially interesting this year, as VW will use the Nurburgring epic to reveal a special edition Golf GTI to the world. It’ll be the version to celebrate 50 years of the nameplate; so while on the one hand it could be just another Golf GTI Anniversary - there have been enough of those over the decades to know the deal there - it could be something a lot more interesting. You’re only 50 once, after all. And the electric Golf GTI is coming. A final swansong for petrol power would seem very appropriate at such a momentous milestone. 

Whatever the 50th turns out to be, there’s going to be some interest. It’s a Golf GTI, after all, and there really aren’t many other fast cars out there with the same kind of heritage and continued relevance. Certainly none that remain as vaguely attainable. It’s hard to imagine the fast car scene in the UK without half a century of Golf GTIs, from the original to the latest. There’s plenty to like about the current 8.5 in fact, righting a few wrongs of the Mk8 GTI, so hopes are high for the 50th. 

It’s the old school we’re celebrating here, however. The nostalgia associated with Golf GTIs in the UK, plus the fact a good few of them were great hot hatches, means the survivors have become covetable classics in recent years. That and the fact that they were built to last, like a lot of German cars from the latter part of the 20th century. You’d much sooner be putting a 150,000-mile Golf GTI to regular use than an equally well-used Escort XR3, surely. 

The staying power of the Golf GTI was evidenced by the Mk1 recently auctioned on PH, complete with more than 200k. This eight-valve Mk2 is some way from that milestone, at a little more than 100,000 miles, or not very many per year given it’s a 1990 car. With four former owners, plenty of history and zero modifications beyond an immobiliser (the late '90s and early '00s had to be survived somehow), it looks an excellent example. It even has the original parcel shelf…

And check out the spec: Dark Blue Metallic (very rare), the BBS, the big bumpers. It’s the Golf GTI you always wanted. The interior has aged beautifully, and comes complete with the original speedo that was replaced back in 1995. A proper time capsule, albeit one that could still be put into reasonably regular service, because that’s just what Golf GTIs are great at. 

While this Mk2 is an eight-valve rather than a 16, we’re at the point now with Mk2s - much like with 205 GTIs in fact - that engine spec matters much less than it did. Just having the GTI is important, and all that it represents from days gone by. As well as being the perfect palette cleanser for modern motoring. Don’t be surprised if a few join you in bidding when it kicks off next week...


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VR6 Eug

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728 posts

213 months

Tuesday
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I had a 1991 16v one of those, H8 TPS, in the same colour and spec, bbs wheels, big bumpers etc, Absolutely loved that car, fast for the time and bombproof reliable.

Alex@POD

6,385 posts

229 months

Tuesday
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I love these cars, I never could get over the state of the engine bay though!

sutts

1,011 posts

162 months

Tuesday
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I do like a Mk 2 Golf GTI.

I saw this one at the weekend, and it was pretty much immaculate inside and out with well under 100k miles. I would probably prefer a five door like this. I guess it must be one of the very last ones being on a J plate, as I believe the Mk 3’s came out on the K.


S600BSB

6,487 posts

120 months

Tuesday
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I had a ‘91 8v big bumper. Loved it, but always wished I had got a 16v.

ST330

114 posts

25 months

Tuesday
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I had a Nov. 89 8v 3dr big bumper with polished teardrop alloys, one of the first big bumper cars. PAS didn't come until Feb '90.

First owner had splashed out on electric windows and sliding sunroof, no tilt. Most GTis of this time had keep fit windows.

i did 45,000 miles in two years, it felt tight but always wished I'd gone for the 16v. 112hp never felt quite enough.

biggbn

26,841 posts

234 months

Tuesday
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Had loads of mk2 Gti, 8v, 16v and a brace of vr6 conversions. Brilliant little cars. Late 16v three door with power steering and steel sunroof pick of the bunch for me. Always found more doors were better looked after by nicer people though!!

Darlo74

303 posts

223 months

Tuesday
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Remember my 1990 Oak Green Big Bumper 16v fondly, a great car and loved driving it. Put plenty of miles on it, commuting daily at the time... but, not as reliable as people make out, or maybe I'm the exception that proves the rule. Plenty of problems with mine, resulting in me trading it in for a Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo - it literally conked out as I drove into the forecourt to drop it off!

Markytee

32 posts

85 months

Tuesday
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Had a C reg 8v, fantastic car! My brother and I and friends did thousands of miles travelling to watch rallying all over the UK, including many forest tracks, it never missed a beat. Decided to sell it in ‘93, had the choice between a hardly used big bumper 16v or a new Mk3 VR6.... made the wrong decision and bought the VR6 , what a dog.

j_s14a

868 posts

192 months

Tuesday
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ST330 said:
I had a Nov. 89 8v 3dr big bumper with polished teardrop alloys, one of the first big bumper cars. PAS didn't come until Feb '90.

First owner had splashed out on electric windows and sliding sunroof, no tilt. Most GTis of this time had keep fit windows.

i did 45,000 miles in two years, it felt tight but always wished I'd gone for the 16v. 112hp never felt quite enough.
It never felt enough, because it wasn't enough.

I once owned a lovely 3 door 8v in Oak green. Was in really good condition overall, but I just couldn't deal with how slow it was. The 8v is a dull lump, and that combined with its K jetronic injection system (best of luck when that starts going wrong), means that the best thing for an 8v is as a base for an ABF, 1.8t or VR6 swap.

AlandSoph

21 posts

1 month

Tuesday
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VR6 Eug said:
I had a 1991 16v one of those, H8 TPS, in the same colour and spec, bbs wheels, big bumpers etc, Absolutely loved that car, fast for the time and bombproof reliable.
Me too. Helios Blue, H716 KHK was the plate and i absolutely loved it. Still got half an eye out for one, but with top examples going for £20k plus, i just can't justify it. Makes me weep when i think of what i sold H716KHK for back in '95.

993_C2S

216 posts

240 months

Tuesday
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sutts said:
I do like a Mk 2 Golf GTI.

I saw this one at the weekend, and it was pretty much immaculate inside and out with well under 100k miles. I would probably prefer a five door like this. I guess it must be one of the very last ones being on a J plate, as I believe the Mk 3 s came out on the K.

Wow, that was my father's car for 10+ years, incredible seeing it again, was a really lovely example! Looks like it's been beautifully restored.

@sutts: Where was this?

It's one of the last Mk2, and so came with all the run out special stuff like rainbow seats, electric windows and half tinted rear lights. All this stuff was standard on the 16V for the last 2 yrs of production, the 8V didn't get it until literally the last 6 months of production run.

Would love to see it again, my father loved it.

howardhughes

1,218 posts

218 months

Tuesday
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I had a MK2 16V big bumper in dark sliver. Beautiful car. Then I was introduced to a BMW E30 325i. That was on another level compared to the Golf.

username_checksout

208 posts

14 months

Tuesday
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Ah, memories. Great cars.

Back in 2013 my brother bought a late 8v so I thought I'd better buy a 16v so as to not feel like the black sheep of the family. This is us in the Goodwood FoS car park at the end of a long, hot day. As we were crawling along the road out, a McLaren 'something' (apologies, I don't know any of the models apart from the F1) was in front of us. A chap walking along the road with his wife took a look at it, saw us behind and we heard him say 'I'd rather have those two'. It made our day.

Both now in new hands but the black one was MOT'd up until December and had nearly 190,000 miles on it. My brother's red 8V is touching 170,000 and is MOT'd and still on the road.


CT05 Nose Cone

25,473 posts

241 months

Tuesday
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I had an E reg 16v and it was bloody awful, constantly breaking down and idle control valves were a consumable. Only car I've ever owned where I genuinely wished someone would steal it. Although amazingly according to the DVLA it's still alive.

sutts

1,011 posts

162 months

Tuesday
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993_C2S said:
sutts said:
I do like a Mk 2 Golf GTI.

I saw this one at the weekend, and it was pretty much immaculate inside and out with well under 100k miles. I would probably prefer a five door like this. I guess it must be one of the very last ones being on a J plate, as I believe the Mk 3 s came out on the K.

Wow, that was my father's car for 10+ years, incredible seeing it again, was a really lovely example! Looks like it's been beautifully restored.

@sutts: Where was this?

It's one of the last Mk2, and so came with all the run out special stuff like rainbow seats, electric windows and half tinted rear lights. All this stuff was standard on the 16V for the last 2 yrs of production, the 8V didn't get it until literally the last 6 months of production run.

Would love to see it again, my father loved it.
That s great! It was at the Headcorn Aerodrome classic/interesting car show. Headcorn is a village about 6 or 7 miles away from Maidstone in Kent. They put about four on each year, it s really relaxed and a good amount of a very eclectic range of cars turn up. What with the two Spitfires taking off and landing right next to the field and parachutists landing nearby it s an enjoyable few hours.

The Golf really was lovely - I wish I’d taken a few more photos of it now.

Edited by sutts on Tuesday 3rd June 19:50

993_C2S

216 posts

240 months

Tuesday
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sutts said:
That s great! It was at the Headcorn Aerodrome classic/interesting car show. Headcorn is a village about 6 or 7 miles away from Maidstone in Kent. They put about four on each year, it s really relaxed and a good amount of a very eclectic range of cars turn up. What with the two Spitfires taking off and landing right next to the field and parachutists landing nearby it s an enjoyable few hours.

The Golf really was lovely - I wish I d taken a few more photos of it now.

Edited by sutts on Tuesday 3rd June 19:50
Thanks Sutts, I wish I could see it again. I used to keep it polished and well maintained for my dad - Tornado red didn't stay red for long under the sun!

Here's some pics I've found of it from when we had it. Sold it with around 148k miles IIRC. Looks like the mudflaps are off it now.





And my Mk1 that I still have (you can just see the Mk2 outside on the road)


winthattt

11 posts

193 months

Tuesday
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Had one from new, same colour, same model, one of the very first big bumper models. Engine was never right in mine so it was slower than slow and had some rust blisters from new on the sunroof. Biggest problems was crime brigade knowing how easy it was to get in with a screwdriver between the door handle and the door skin, think it was broken in to three times in 18 months. It was many years before I tried a VW again, when it did, it was very good.

J4CKO

44,131 posts

214 months

Tuesday
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Probably shown this before but here it is again, me picking up the Golf GTI I won in 1989 in a Daily Mirror competition.

Had several, they were great cars, be interested to drive one again but think 112 bhp might seem a bit anaemic nowadays.




John-a8u6x

3 posts

20 months

Tuesday
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I brought a 1985 LHD 8v MK2 golf in Munich in 1998. I still have the car, its done around 600K km now, on its third gearbox but still on the original untouched engine save for regular servicing and it now resides in new Zealand.

Anyway, I was driving up the Pyrenees ranges from Barcelona with my ex, camping gear etc and came across a bloke in a 16v mk2 cruising up the same road. When he say me behind him, he sped up and we had an amazing drive fanging our cars through the bends and climbing road. But he just couldn't pull away from us in my 8v over something like 40kms.
Do I wish I had a 16v at all? No, I am more than happy with the 8v and I would say that they represent far better value for money and I love the torque from fairly low in the rev range.

BUG4LIFE

2,307 posts

232 months

Tuesday
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I’m a big mk2 GTi fan too. Here’s a pic of the one I owned for a good few years, back in the day. I’d definitely have one (oak green, 3 door, BBS alloys) in my Lotto win garage.