Stroll tantrum...

Stroll tantrum...

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RDMcG

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221 months

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/motorsports/f1-sta...

Team has not denied that event occurred but has said that the injury was pre-existing and not caused by the commotion........

90CHPAXL

1,083 posts

117 months

Tuesday
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Not caused by, but made worse by biggrin

Sandpit Steve

12,524 posts

88 months

Tuesday
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Reading between the lines, he’s punched something or someone and re-busted the wrist he broke falling off his bike a couple of years ago.

Can’t imagine his old man is too happy with that, especially if he misses his home race in 10 days’ time. Perhaps we’ll see Papa Stroll and Newey talking to MV in the paddock in Canada.

John D.

19,142 posts

223 months

Tuesday
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Oh well.

Supersam83

1,120 posts

159 months

Tuesday
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I'm sure all the Lance Stroll fans in Canada will be disappointed that he won't be driving in Montreal.

The last time there was no Canadian driver at the Canadian Grand Prix was in 2016.

RDMcG

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Supersam83 said:
I'm sure all the Lance Stroll fans in Canada will be disappointed that he won't be driving in Montreal.

The last time there was no Canadian driver at the Canadian Grand Prix was in 2016.
He enjoys the same level of enthusiasm in Canada as he does worldwide.

bergclimber34

1,034 posts

7 months

Tuesday
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Would hope this leads to him finally realising what we all know he is not even close to being good enough to be in that car, he comes across as an entitled, miserable little spoiled brat, and the less we know of him the better, imagine it must be hard work working in a team with the miserable grinch

Imagine being that bloody rich and that miserable, what an entitled little sod

matherto

62 posts

10 months

Tuesday
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bergclimber34 said:
Would hope this leads to him finally realising what we all know he is not even close to being good enough to be in that car, he comes across as an entitled, miserable little spoiled brat, and the less we know of him the better, imagine it must be hard work working in a team with the miserable grinch

Imagine being that bloody rich and that miserable, what an entitled little sod
Well money doesn't equal happiness and by all accounts he'd rather be playing tennis and this F1 career has been rather foisted on him by his dad (who's clearly a massive prick himself) so is it any wonder that he's not the nicest type?

Born into a stload of money is already one strike against you in most cases, he's enjoyed the finer things in life but at the cost of a hard-ass dad dictating everything he does. I'd be pretty bloody miserable too because nothing I do is good enough nor is it anything I want to do.

Big Nanas

2,356 posts

98 months

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matherto said:
bergclimber34 said:
Would hope this leads to him finally realising what we all know he is not even close to being good enough to be in that car, he comes across as an entitled, miserable little spoiled brat, and the less we know of him the better, imagine it must be hard work working in a team with the miserable grinch

Imagine being that bloody rich and that miserable, what an entitled little sod
Well money doesn't equal happiness and by all accounts he'd rather be playing tennis and this F1 career has been rather foisted on him by his dad (who's clearly a massive prick himself) so is it any wonder that he's not the nicest type?

Born into a stload of money is already one strike against you in most cases, he's enjoyed the finer things in life but at the cost of a hard-ass dad dictating everything he does. I'd be pretty bloody miserable too because nothing I do is good enough nor is it anything I want to do.
And this on-going hand injury will mean his tennis playing days are possibly over.

Just for the sake of some of fairness to Stroll (which is something I wouldn't usually do), Andrew Benson (BBC) originaly reported on this, but has since amended this saying it was not correct. Also Stroll's engineer has tweeted that he did not swear at, or abuse any of the pit crew.

I can only assume that he got out of the car swearing due to the pain, and someone has decided to engineer a story out of it.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,473 posts

241 months

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Supersam83 said:
I'm sure all the Lance Stroll fans in Canada will be disappointed that he won't be driving in Montreal.

The last time there was no Canadian driver at the Canadian Grand Prix was in 2016.
Yes, both of them will be devastated.

Supersam83

1,120 posts

159 months

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CT05 Nose Cone said:
Supersam83 said:
I'm sure all the Lance Stroll fans in Canada will be disappointed that he won't be driving in Montreal.

The last time there was no Canadian driver at the Canadian Grand Prix was in 2016.
Yes, both of them will be devastated.
What's Nicholas Latifi up to nowadays? laugh

TheDeuce

27,833 posts

80 months

Tuesday
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Sandpit Steve said:
Reading between the lines, he s punched something or someone and re-busted the wrist he broke falling off his bike a couple of years ago.

Can t imagine his old man is too happy with that, especially if he misses his home race in 10 days time. Perhaps we ll see Papa Stroll and Newey talking to MV in the paddock in Canada.
Assuming his little breakdown in the garage did re-bust his wrist, then I would agree Daddy should be fuming! It's one thing that his son is plainly not a top driver, barely even a middle of the field driver... But to actually remove himself from a race that way, limiting sponsor exposure, is just needlessly damaging to the team.

I suppose the other possibility is that his wrist was hurting and harmed his Q2 time which led to the loss of temper, but smashing up the garage seems unlikely if you already have a very sore wrist.

Also, what sort of tool has a paddy in the garage at their own quali pace!? It's not as if he was wronged by someone or treated unfairly rolleyes

Spoil a child, get a brat.

TheDeuce

27,833 posts

80 months

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Big Nanas said:
And this on-going hand injury will mean his tennis playing days are possibly over.

Just for the sake of some of fairness to Stroll (which is something I wouldn't usually do), Andrew Benson (BBC) originaly reported on this, but has since amended this saying it was not correct. Also Stroll's engineer has tweeted that he did not swear at, or abuse any of the pit crew.

I can only assume that he got out of the car swearing due to the pain, and someone has decided to engineer a story out of it.
Whenever someone on the inside puts out a statement saying what a person [i]didn't[/] do, there's a very good chance that it's honest, but only about what they didn't do - not what they did do. So did he smash up some kit, punch a wall again...? If his race engineer wanted to cover off all doubt the statement would read "Lance was very upset, but there was no violent outburst", which would kill the rumours of him flipping out and becoming aggressive. Why didn't the engineer take the opportunity to kill such rumours...?

We'll likely never know exactly how his little episode played out, but I would assume that statements made some time after the even have been carefully crafted and may be a little disingenuous.

MissChief

7,459 posts

182 months

Tuesday
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TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Reading between the lines, he s punched something or someone and re-busted the wrist he broke falling off his bike a couple of years ago.

Can t imagine his old man is too happy with that, especially if he misses his home race in 10 days time. Perhaps we ll see Papa Stroll and Newey talking to MV in the paddock in Canada.
Assuming his little breakdown in the garage did re-bust his wrist, then I would agree Daddy should be fuming! It's one thing that his son is plainly not a top driver, barely even a middle of the field driver... But to actually remove himself from a race that way, limiting sponsor exposure, is just needlessly damaging to the team.

I suppose the other possibility is that his wrist was hurting and harmed his Q2 time which led to the loss of temper, but smashing up the garage seems unlikely if you already have a very sore wrist.

Also, what sort of tool has a paddy in the garage at their own quali pace!? It's not as if he was wronged by someone or treated unfairly rolleyes

Spoil a child, get a brat.
Serial gossip peddler and gossip creator thejudge13 is suggesting that this might actually be the end of Lance Stroll’s F1 career.

TheDeuce

27,833 posts

80 months

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MissChief said:
TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Reading between the lines, he s punched something or someone and re-busted the wrist he broke falling off his bike a couple of years ago.

Can t imagine his old man is too happy with that, especially if he misses his home race in 10 days time. Perhaps we ll see Papa Stroll and Newey talking to MV in the paddock in Canada.
Assuming his little breakdown in the garage did re-bust his wrist, then I would agree Daddy should be fuming! It's one thing that his son is plainly not a top driver, barely even a middle of the field driver... But to actually remove himself from a race that way, limiting sponsor exposure, is just needlessly damaging to the team.

I suppose the other possibility is that his wrist was hurting and harmed his Q2 time which led to the loss of temper, but smashing up the garage seems unlikely if you already have a very sore wrist.

Also, what sort of tool has a paddy in the garage at their own quali pace!? It's not as if he was wronged by someone or treated unfairly rolleyes

Spoil a child, get a brat.
Serial gossip peddler and gossip creator thejudge13 is suggesting that this might actually be the end of Lance Stroll s F1 career.
I would assume, as always, judge13 knows nothing more than any of the rest of us... Although tbf, if Lance is getting this upset at his F1 performance, and/or his wrist problem is looking to be enduring, then that can only make it more likely that he eventually calls it a day. I mean honestly, what is the point? He's not going to get any better as a driver and it must often feel uncomfortable being part of the grid but not on merit. If racing now actually hurts, then why bother?

Maybe he needs the money...

richhead

2,361 posts

25 months

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I've always felt a bit sorry for Stroll, he showed promise in a car, but it wasn't what he wanted to do, but his dad bought a team for him to race and even employed the best in the business to make it work, all the pressure is on lance to deliver in something he doesn't really want, he's doing it to keep his dad happy, and let's not forget his dad has some big shoes to fill. I know a lot will say " poor little rich boy" but I'm sure it's not a great place to be.

TheDeuce

27,833 posts

80 months

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richhead said:
I've always felt a bit sorry for Stroll, he showed promise in a car, but it wasn't what he wanted to do, but his dad bought a team for him to race and even employed the best in the business to make it work, all the pressure is on lance to deliver in something he doesn't really want, he's doing it to keep his dad happy, and let's not forget his dad has some big shoes to fill. I know a lot will say " poor little rich boy" but I'm sure it's not a great place to be.
Are we sure his Dad wants him to be there more than he wants to be there? If so, yes that would make things even more uncomfortable for him - of course.

Whatever motivates him staying in the seat, it's plainly not on merit and I can't see how it can be anything other than at least a little awkward for him, which is sad and does make me cringe on his behalf sometimes.

I guess it's possible that he actually loves being an F1 driver and is ok with it on the basis that his Dad can afford it, so who cares what others think? He just doesn't look like he loves it very often....

RDMcG

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221 months

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Quite independently of this incident I do not believe he merits a seat simply based on his sustained lack of performance and no improvement.

Next year will be when we see the impact of Adrian Newey at Aston and new cars. My bet is that there will be a much more competitive car then. It will be essential for the team to recruit topflight drivers to take advantage of that new world.

I would not be surprised ( and have zero insider knowledge) if there were to be an announcement that Srtoll's injury would not allow him to continue as a driver. Alonzo is a superb driver but I think his age will militate against him, so I would not be amazed to see two new faces there.

moffspeed

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221 months

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Jackie Stewart won the German GP at the ‘Ring in 1968 with his wrist in a splint, the legacy of a scaphoid # sustained a couple of months earlier.

In monsoon conditions his winning margin was some 4 minutes - although he admitted he suffered a lot of pain and if the conditions had been dry he would probably not have coped with the steering forces in his Matra.

I’d love to see Bottas have some fun in the Aston, otherwise let’s hope for a wet Canadian GP Lance.

Byker28i

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231 months

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What happens at the next race. Both AM reserve drivers are racing at Le Mans