The obligatory "how to fix Monaco" discussion

The obligatory "how to fix Monaco" discussion

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mattikake

Original Poster:

5,091 posts

212 months

Yesterday (18:20)
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It's a bit of a duffer these days. Today was different but not much above self flagellation.

Redesign the track (like in this x thread (easier to post pictures here)?

https://x.com/Mattikake/status/1926687842371018906...

Change the race format?

Change the cars?

sherman

14,311 posts

228 months

Yesterday (18:49)
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I reckon the 2 mandated pitstops work but they need to mandate 1st stop by lap 25 for instance and second mandated stop lap 45- 60 and you have to run the soft tyre for 5 lap minimum during thexrace.
Additional stops at driver/constructor discrestion

Lil_Red_GTO

754 posts

156 months

Yesterday (18:52)
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It does need fixed, in my opinion. A race where you can't overtake isn't a race.

Absent some more radical overhaul of the design of the cars could track changes not be tried? I can understand that there will be a reluctance on the part of the organisers to change such a historic track, but the layout has changed numerous times over the decades so what's a few more changes to try and keep it relevant.

That said, while Monaco has always been hard to pass on (See Senna/Mansell 92), I'm sure I remember more lunging pass attempts in previous decades. Is there something about the current cars that is making things even worse?


g4ry13

19,301 posts

268 months

Yesterday (18:55)
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Make the cars 25% of the size.

Otherwise there's no fixing it.

CocoUK

1,004 posts

195 months

Yesterday (18:57)
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Just watch the Saturday, every driver looks heroic, take the Sunday off - plenty of other races in the calendar.

732NM

7,581 posts

28 months

Yesterday (19:02)
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Make it a one off sprint event, as in hillclimb/sprint, not a race.

nordboy

2,306 posts

63 months

Yesterday (19:12)
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It's not a quick fix, I think the size of the cars should be reduced quite a lot, that will help the racing at all circuits, but especially ones like Monaco.

It's now just a fashion/ rich people parade, or them showing off who has the biggest wallet and boat. There's nothing for the proper F1 fan there now.

Geneve

3,968 posts

232 months

Yesterday (20:47)
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It’s a unique event, and really a showpiece for the Principality and the glamour of Formula One.

Rarely an entertaining race, but the one many spectators want to visit and most drivers want to win.

I wouldn’t discount the 2-Stop rule. It didn’t work especially well this time - but could have been different. Alonso should have parked on the track wink

thegreenhell

19,089 posts

232 months

Yesterday (20:51)
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Make them ride MotoGP bikes.

thebraketester

14,950 posts

151 months

Yesterday (20:58)
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Wet tyres only and 1 set for the whole race. (unless its raining, then softs)

Muzzer79

11,819 posts

200 months

Yesterday (20:59)
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‘Fixing’ the cars is a 25-odd race solution to a one race problem. Albeit, I agree the cars are too big and heavy.

The solution is to fix the track. With all the money in Monaco, I can’t believe they can’t create an overtaking spot.

What happened to the plan to reclaim land around Portier and extend the circuit?

thegreenhell

19,089 posts

232 months

Yesterday (21:10)
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Muzzer79 said:
What happened to the plan to reclaim land around Portier and extend the circuit?
It's pretty much finished now, but it doesn't look like they made any of the new roads wide enough to race on. Half of it looks pedestrianised.


Wills2

25,661 posts

188 months

Yesterday (21:19)
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Introduce a 40% income tax watch everyone leave, then bulldoze the place and build a new wider track with lovely views over the sea.


C4ME

1,579 posts

224 months

Yesterday (21:21)
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732NM said:
Make it a one off sprint event, as in hillclimb/sprint, not a race.
I have had this thought myself as quali is always so good.


Edited by C4ME on Sunday 25th May 21:29

haggi

861 posts

226 months

Yesterday (21:25)
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Take the front and rear wings away for the weekend

abzmike

10,167 posts

119 months

Yesterday (21:25)
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Sprinklers to soak the circuit between laps 20 and 50… a wet race is always entertaining.

ChocolateFrog

31,143 posts

186 months

Yesterday (21:38)
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st can it where it belongs.

shirt

24,124 posts

214 months

Yesterday (21:50)
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Change the circuit.

Only make it much much longer.

In the same way as Nurburgring events use the Nordschleife and then the modern f1 track, only vice versa thinking.

The Monaco circuit, grandstands and pits are still used but at the end of the marina straight they keep going, link up to the D6007, A500 and A8 with a new road built to link back onto the D6007 and rejoin the old circuit for the start of the next lap.

This would allow passing and you can’t say it wouldn’t still be a spectacle! rofl


Matthen

1,370 posts

164 months

Yesterday (22:02)
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Allow 3 tactical “push through chicane” after the tunnel.

Maybe smooth out the chicane somewhat as well.

Maybe do it like DRS - if you're within 1 second for two laps, you get the option to use your "Chicane" pass.

Edited by Matthen on Sunday 25th May 22:05

InductionRoar

2,079 posts

145 months

Yesterday (22:06)
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C4ME said:
732NM said:
Make it a one off sprint event, as in hillclimb/sprint, not a race.
I have had this thought myself as quali is always so good.


Edited by C4ME on Sunday 25th May 21:29
This is the only sensible option.