Discrete Car port

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Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

4,511 posts

219 months

This could be a silly idea.

We started parking cars (not used very often) in the back corner of our drive, only to find they end up covered in bird poo, massive ‘side plate’ size, ‘dried weetabix’ hard discharges.

There is no option to cut back the trees above.

Is there an option for a car port, something more study than a temporary pop up marquee, but not necessarily an oak framed structure.

Issue is with cars parked in the red area, to the left (if facing the house), is a 10 foot hedge (conifers) therefore should be no issue with neighbours. The eaves of the roof are about 8 foot (so just lower than this).




FlyVintage

154 posts

4 months

I have a very similar problem and have been looking at this kind of thing:



I’m not far enough along to make recommendations though, but will be interested what other people suggest for you.

Simpo Two

88,651 posts

278 months

^^^ I was looking at a cantilevered car port to keep crap off the Aston, but due to the angle of the site, one corner would have overlapped next door's driveway and he objected most strenuously, saying it would be in the way 'if lorries needed to park there'. That was 8 years ago and no lorries have parked there yet... so I've spent a four figure sum on car covers instead.

Ian Geary

4,952 posts

205 months

How visible is it from the road?

As to me this will be the key factor.

Some people near me have a car port tucked hard against their front hedge. It's basically a large shed with an open side, bit visible only of their gates are open.

It probably breaks planning rules but causes no harm.

Least likely to trigger nimbys/ planning enforcement would be a sail type arrangement?

I recall seeing on here (years ago) someone rigid up a car port of 4x2 cls and corrugated plastic in front of his building line - the planners told him to get rid within days.

Whereas a tastefully done / discrete affair stands a better chance of survival.

Ironically those car tents from machine mart are temporary so wouldn't fall foul of planning. They get really bad condensation though.

Hth

pghstochaj

2,781 posts

132 months

Simpo Two said:
^^^ I was looking at a cantilevered car port to keep crap off the Aston, but due to the angle of the site, one corner would have overlapped next door's driveway and he objected most strenuously, saying it would be in the way 'if lorries needed to park there'. That was 8 years ago and no lorries have parked there yet... so I've spent a four figure sum on car covers instead.
It was probably his polite way to say “no, you cannot build over my land, what planet are you on?” but smartly used a practical reason instead.

Baldchap

9,067 posts

105 months

If it has to be free standing with a car under it you're going to want something fairly sturdy.

I know you want it to be separate, but the support offered by attaching it to the house makes a fair difference to the groundwork required.

Simpo Two

88,651 posts

278 months

pghstochaj said:
It was probably his polite way to say “no, you cannot build over my land, what planet are you on?” but smartly used a practical reason instead.
It was a false objection, one of several. I would have preferred him to be truthful - 'I'd rather not have anything overlapping my drive if you don't mind' rather than invent lies. He'd only just moved in and was trying to flex his muscles - forgetting we were going to be neighbours for the next X years. Senior social worker...

Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

4,511 posts

219 months

We live down a cul-de-sac - very little traffic, this the view from the road (fence panels are 5 feet high)
Plus a better photo from within my garden, we looking for something that can protect where the smart car is currently parked.





The Gauge

4,461 posts

26 months

Simpo Two said:
It was a false objection, one of several. I would have preferred him to be truthful - 'I'd rather not have anything overlapping my drive if you don't mind' rather than invent lies. He'd only just moved in and was trying to flex his muscles - forgetting we were going to be neighbours for the next X years. Senior social worker...
I think his reply was reasonable and I'd have probably given you the same reply to be fair, or a mixture of both - "I don't want your carport overlapping onto my land in case I need to get a skip lorry on my drive, or my caravan, and because it would look weird, and if you sell up the new occupant might see it was a permanent feature, and......I simply just don't want you to.

I can't imagine a situation when any neighbour would welcome someone else's carport overhanging onto their land.

Jambur

47 posts

74 months

Simpo Two said:
^^^ I was looking at a cantilevered car port to keep crap off the Aston, but due to the angle of the site, one corner would have overlapped next door's driveway and he objected most strenuously, saying it would be in the way 'if lorries needed to park there'. That was 8 years ago and no lorries have parked there yet... so I've spent a four figure sum on car covers instead.
To be fair, you cant fault for the neighbour not wanting something overhanging his land. I would have been embarrassed to even ask. Also, it could impact future sales.

Jambur

47 posts

74 months

Simpo Two said:
It was a false objection, one of several. I would have preferred him to be truthful - 'I'd rather not have anything overlapping my drive if you don't mind' rather than invent lies. He'd only just moved in and was trying to flex his muscles - forgetting we were going to be neighbours for the next X years. Senior social worker...
You're a new neighbour, yet you make a request like that? I call that a brass neck. You've no right to feel aggrieved, maybe you forgot that you are going to be his neighbour for the next X years?

Doofus

30,206 posts

186 months

OP, do you mean 'discrete', 'discreet' or both?

Cow Corner

502 posts

43 months

Simpo Two said:
pghstochaj said:
It was probably his polite way to say “no, you cannot build over my land, what planet are you on?” but smartly used a practical reason instead.
It was a false objection, one of several. I would have preferred him to be truthful - 'I'd rather not have anything overlapping my drive if you don't mind' rather than invent lies. He'd only just moved in and was trying to flex his muscles - forgetting we were going to be neighbours for the next X years. Senior social worker...
Unless I’m due a whoosh parrot, this is PH gold…

Wilmslowboy

Original Poster:

4,511 posts

219 months

Doofus said:
OP, do you mean 'discrete', 'discreet' or both?
Both really, separate from the home (so it doesn't look to be an extension, moreover a temporary structure), but equally discreet, not having a big visual impact.


Doofus

30,206 posts

186 months

Wilmslowboy said:
Both really, separate from the home (so it doesn't look to be an extension, moreover a temporary structure), but equally discreet, not having a big visual impact.
In that case I'd suggest a two-legged cantilver with a transparent roof.

TA14

12,967 posts

271 months

Doofus said:
Wilmslowboy said:
Both really, separate from the home (so it doesn't look to be an extension, moreover a temporary structure), but equally discreet, not having a big visual impact.
In that case I'd suggest a two-legged cantilver with a transparent roof.
My parents bought a house with one of those but not cantilevered. Very useful but difficult to clean although in WB layout he might not be bothered about cleaning.

Foundations will need to be substantial. If wondering about the temporary nature, I'd have a base plate, bolted down below ground level.

FlyVintage

154 posts

4 months

TA14 said:
My parents bought a house with one of those but not cantilevered. Very useful but difficult to clean although in WB layout he might not be bothered about cleaning.

Foundations will need to be substantial. If wondering about the temporary nature, I'd have a base plate, bolted down below ground level.
I initially thought the foundations would have been a quite substantial affair, but then I thought the same about unsupported 2 post lifts and it turns out that they really aren’t.

The cleaning thing did worry me as my main issue, like the OP, is one of bird poo encouraged by overhanging large trees.

Oldred_V8S

3,750 posts

251 months

Simpo Two said:
^^^ I was looking at a cantilevered car port to keep crap off the Aston, but due to the angle of the site, one corner would have overlapped next door's driveway and he objected most strenuously, saying it would be in the way 'if lorries needed to park there'. That was 8 years ago and no lorries have parked there yet... so I've spent a four figure sum on car covers instead.
He was right to object. Anything over-hanging a boundary causes issues at time of sale for either of you. You'd need flying freehold indemnity.

gtidriver

3,582 posts

200 months

I've got a four-car drive next to my garage but it is totally unusable due to next door tree, it has a tpo and only a twig or two can be removed. fking council wkers. Anyway, I'm going to dig two large holes and plant a few pieces of steel tubing that's slightly wider than a scaffold tube. I'll be attaching a large sail shade between the garage and the posts

OldGermanHeaps

4,612 posts

191 months

Oldred_V8S said:
He was right to object. Anything over-hanging a boundary causes issues at time of sale for either of you. You'd need flying freehold indemnity.
Rainwater runoff onto his driveway would be a problem too, if its monoblock or similar an overhanging structure without gutters will wash away the sand pretty quickly.
Was there no way of constructing it that didnt overhang the neighbours property? Surely not beyond the wit of a decent contractor.