Why hasn't Putin been assassinated yet?
Discussion
As the title says really
with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?
I know his security is meant to be very good and any audience given has to be a good distance apart, to the extent some speculate that peace talks will never happen as Putin doesn't want to be in a known location for any length of time.
with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?
I know his security is meant to be very good and any audience given has to be a good distance apart, to the extent some speculate that peace talks will never happen as Putin doesn't want to be in a known location for any length of time.
I would imagine that the entire Russian high command is a crab bucket, with Putin as King Crab.
If he were assinated the subsequent spate of political killings would be horrific and the inevitable civil war and breakdown of normal society until another (probably nastier) strong man reached the status of King Crab would be sufficient to make all but the most psychotic would be assassin cool their heels and wait for nature to do the job for them.
Add into this the fact that the faction who wield the knife almost never prosper. Why not let someone else do it?
Plus the genuine danger that he becomes a martyr to the Russian People and causes a solidification of his leadership style and aims with whoever takes over.
It really is among the least palatable options on the table.
If he were assinated the subsequent spate of political killings would be horrific and the inevitable civil war and breakdown of normal society until another (probably nastier) strong man reached the status of King Crab would be sufficient to make all but the most psychotic would be assassin cool their heels and wait for nature to do the job for them.
Add into this the fact that the faction who wield the knife almost never prosper. Why not let someone else do it?
Plus the genuine danger that he becomes a martyr to the Russian People and causes a solidification of his leadership style and aims with whoever takes over.
It really is among the least palatable options on the table.
Stick Legs said:
Plus the genuine danger that he becomes a martyr to the Russian People and causes a solidification of his leadership style and aims with whoever takes over.
It really is among the least palatable options on the table.
I'm not sure he needs to become a martyr for that. I know a lot of people from the ex Soviet Union Baltic states and the level of general support for how things were before the collapse is surprising. It's one of the things that makes me far more sceptical of every source of "news" these days than i was as a young man.It really is among the least palatable options on the table.
A lot of Russians support him and believe all the propaganda coming out of the state media (which is almost all) and that the whole kleptocracy is dependent on Putin remaining where he is.
An awful lot of senior people rely on Putin’s blessing for their own grift and don’t want the taps that directly feed their own bank accounts switched off.
When Putin does finally go, expect shares in window glazing companies to soar…
An awful lot of senior people rely on Putin’s blessing for their own grift and don’t want the taps that directly feed their own bank accounts switched off.
When Putin does finally go, expect shares in window glazing companies to soar…
In terms of Putin, as above, it wouldn't be anyone in his cabinet. It would need to be outside and anonymous forces. Theoretically I guess UK/USA/European Special Forces COULD do it. But there would have to be ZERO proof it was any one nation as the blow back in the short term would be massive. Though I suspect there's plenty of moderates in his cabinet who would be far more agreeable to have in charge!
Its part of the reason those same news outlets were so ridiculous in calling the Jan 6th riots an "insurrection" It was the totally wrong word used because they wanted to reinforce the narrative that Democrats supporters good, Republican supporters bad.
Those could have gotten in to the chamber, murdered every single Senator, burnt the building to the ground. And the overwhelming majority of America on both sides would have condemned them. And had them arrested and tried. Then a new group of Democrat and GOP senators would be elected and democracy would carry on! no insurrection in the traditional sense would ever work. These rioters had no plan, no idea for government it was just a bunch of easily led rabble that got drunk and rioted.
The situation with Putin actively changing the rules by force and his puppet cabinet allowing it, is NOT the same as anything that could happen in the USA or UK or any major western nation!
mike9009 said:
I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.
As others have stated, I imagine the security around Putin will be fierce. Not sure I have seen photos of him even outside recently..... no doubt there are some, but.....
Killing Trump doesn't change anything though. As above Vance takes over and in 2028 democracy kicks in and there's another election. Despite what the handwringing CNN & Guardian believes, Trump isn't actually going to be changing anything that gives him infinite power.As others have stated, I imagine the security around Putin will be fierce. Not sure I have seen photos of him even outside recently..... no doubt there are some, but.....
Its part of the reason those same news outlets were so ridiculous in calling the Jan 6th riots an "insurrection" It was the totally wrong word used because they wanted to reinforce the narrative that Democrats supporters good, Republican supporters bad.

Those could have gotten in to the chamber, murdered every single Senator, burnt the building to the ground. And the overwhelming majority of America on both sides would have condemned them. And had them arrested and tried. Then a new group of Democrat and GOP senators would be elected and democracy would carry on! no insurrection in the traditional sense would ever work. These rioters had no plan, no idea for government it was just a bunch of easily led rabble that got drunk and rioted.
The situation with Putin actively changing the rules by force and his puppet cabinet allowing it, is NOT the same as anything that could happen in the USA or UK or any major western nation!
350Matt said:
As the title says really
with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?
Probably because "the supposed discontent within Russia" exists mostly in the Western media.with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?
He is pretty popular there, for obvious reasons. I wouldn't expect a popular public uprising any time soon. For the other threats, well, he is also clearly a very canny guy to get where he has got.
Wheel Turned Out said:
mike9009 said:
I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.
Then we'd be stuck with Vance, not sure we'd be any better off. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff