Why hasn't Putin been assassinated yet?

Why hasn't Putin been assassinated yet?

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350Matt

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292 months

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As the title says really

with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?

I know his security is meant to be very good and any audience given has to be a good distance apart, to the extent some speculate that peace talks will never happen as Putin doesn't want to be in a known location for any length of time.

CT05 Nose Cone

25,457 posts

240 months

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Not uncommon amongst dictators, Hitler died by his own hand (although narrowly avoided several attempts), Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Kim Jeong, Franco and Stalin all died of natural causes. Even the ones who were killed like Mussolini or Saddam were after they were overthrown.

Wheel Turned Out

1,360 posts

51 months

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It seems like such an easy thing until it's up to you to be the one pulling the trigger.

wc98

11,711 posts

153 months

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Given the amount of body doubles the wee stebag appears to have is there enough bullets in the world ?

Stick Legs

7,114 posts

178 months

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I would imagine that the entire Russian high command is a crab bucket, with Putin as King Crab.

If he were assinated the subsequent spate of political killings would be horrific and the inevitable civil war and breakdown of normal society until another (probably nastier) strong man reached the status of King Crab would be sufficient to make all but the most psychotic would be assassin cool their heels and wait for nature to do the job for them.

Add into this the fact that the faction who wield the knife almost never prosper. Why not let someone else do it?

Plus the genuine danger that he becomes a martyr to the Russian People and causes a solidification of his leadership style and aims with whoever takes over.

It really is among the least palatable options on the table.

wc98

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Stick Legs said:
Plus the genuine danger that he becomes a martyr to the Russian People and causes a solidification of his leadership style and aims with whoever takes over.

It really is among the least palatable options on the table.
I'm not sure he needs to become a martyr for that. I know a lot of people from the ex Soviet Union Baltic states and the level of general support for how things were before the collapse is surprising. It's one of the things that makes me far more sceptical of every source of "news" these days than i was as a young man.

mike9009

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256 months

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I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.

As others have stated, I imagine the security around Putin will be fierce. Not sure I have seen photos of him even outside recently..... no doubt there are some, but.....


Wheel Turned Out

1,360 posts

51 months

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mike9009 said:
I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.
Then we'd be stuck with Vance, not sure we'd be any better off.

valiant

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173 months

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A lot of Russians support him and believe all the propaganda coming out of the state media (which is almost all) and that the whole kleptocracy is dependent on Putin remaining where he is.

An awful lot of senior people rely on Putin’s blessing for their own grift and don’t want the taps that directly feed their own bank accounts switched off.

When Putin does finally go, expect shares in window glazing companies to soar…

BunkMoreland

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20 months

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In terms of Putin, as above, it wouldn't be anyone in his cabinet. It would need to be outside and anonymous forces. Theoretically I guess UK/USA/European Special Forces COULD do it. But there would have to be ZERO proof it was any one nation as the blow back in the short term would be massive. Though I suspect there's plenty of moderates in his cabinet who would be far more agreeable to have in charge!

mike9009 said:
I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.

As others have stated, I imagine the security around Putin will be fierce. Not sure I have seen photos of him even outside recently..... no doubt there are some, but.....
Killing Trump doesn't change anything though. As above Vance takes over and in 2028 democracy kicks in and there's another election. Despite what the handwringing CNN & Guardian believes, Trump isn't actually going to be changing anything that gives him infinite power.

Its part of the reason those same news outlets were so ridiculous in calling the Jan 6th riots an "insurrection" It was the totally wrong word used because they wanted to reinforce the narrative that Democrats supporters good, Republican supporters bad. rolleyes

Those could have gotten in to the chamber, murdered every single Senator, burnt the building to the ground. And the overwhelming majority of America on both sides would have condemned them. And had them arrested and tried. Then a new group of Democrat and GOP senators would be elected and democracy would carry on! no insurrection in the traditional sense would ever work. These rioters had no plan, no idea for government it was just a bunch of easily led rabble that got drunk and rioted.

The situation with Putin actively changing the rules by force and his puppet cabinet allowing it, is NOT the same as anything that could happen in the USA or UK or any major western nation!

grumbledoak

32,094 posts

246 months

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350Matt said:
As the title says really

with the supposed discontent within Russia and how the Ukraine war is largely down to him, why is he still walking about?
Probably because "the supposed discontent within Russia" exists mostly in the Western media.

He is pretty popular there, for obvious reasons. I wouldn't expect a popular public uprising any time soon. For the other threats, well, he is also clearly a very canny guy to get where he has got.

mike9009

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Wheel Turned Out said:
mike9009 said:
I wonder the same about Trump, I imagine he would be an 'easier' target.
Then we'd be stuck with Vance, not sure we'd be any better off.
Just to be clear, I am not suggesting it should be done. I am just surprised it has not been attempted again.....

FredericRobinson

4,250 posts

245 months

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mike9009 said:
Just to be clear, I am not suggesting it should be done. I am just surprised it has not been attempted again.....
Window and helicopter accidents