Tracker… would you want it back?
Discussion
After seeing a recent post online about a haul of bikes being recovered from a container at Tillbury dock, and lots of people singing the praises of trackers and their experiences with them it got me thinking… a bike registered as stolen recovered will no doubt be of less value than an identical bike that isn’t, along with the other queries someone would have of buying a “stolen recovered” vehicle. Knowing it had been tagged about by thieves, dropped, and got knows what else, would you really want a bike back that’d been taken? Personally I wouldn’t…
Depends on the bike and the payout offered but generally yes I would want it back
AFAIK if the bike hasn't been paid out ie it is recovered quickly - then is not recorded as "stolen recovered"
Equally, if it is recorded as "stolen recovered" then you can usually buy it back for such a cheap price it would be foolish not to
AFAIK if the bike hasn't been paid out ie it is recovered quickly - then is not recorded as "stolen recovered"
Equally, if it is recorded as "stolen recovered" then you can usually buy it back for such a cheap price it would be foolish not to
No, I wouldn’t want it back.
In order to get insured on my KTM I had to have a tracker fitted.
I will say that they are very good at what they do and the customer service was spot on.
But if it was ever stolen I’d hope it was crashed and destroyed before it had had any chance of being recovered.
In order to get insured on my KTM I had to have a tracker fitted.
I will say that they are very good at what they do and the customer service was spot on.
But if it was ever stolen I’d hope it was crashed and destroyed before it had had any chance of being recovered.
KTMsm said:
Depends on the bike and the payout offered but generally yes I would want it back
AFAIK if the bike hasn't been paid out ie it is recovered quickly - then is not recorded as "stolen recovered"
Equally, if it is recorded as "stolen recovered" then you can usually buy it back for such a cheap price it would be foolish not to
How does it stand if the police seize it for forensics? Does it get returned but not recorded? Or is it at this point it is recorded as stolen recovered? AFAIK if the bike hasn't been paid out ie it is recovered quickly - then is not recorded as "stolen recovered"
Equally, if it is recorded as "stolen recovered" then you can usually buy it back for such a cheap price it would be foolish not to
The chances of the police finding it with a tracker are slim, the entire point of having a tracker is for you to go get it yourself. If it gets to the point that the police have found your bike then you've probably already been paid out for it and the insurance company own it.
I've bout loads of categorised stuff over the years, crashed, stolen, vandalized. You just weigh up the option of cost versus condition on each one, if it's cheap enough and I want it then I'll have it.
Currently have a bike a track car and a van that have either been through copart or were spares/repair auctions. I have nice stuff too, it's just good to own stuff that you're not precious about too in my opinion.
I've bout loads of categorised stuff over the years, crashed, stolen, vandalized. You just weigh up the option of cost versus condition on each one, if it's cheap enough and I want it then I'll have it.
Currently have a bike a track car and a van that have either been through copart or were spares/repair auctions. I have nice stuff too, it's just good to own stuff that you're not precious about too in my opinion.
I've just been through this with a bike that I bought as HPI clear
When I HPi it at point of sale, it came up as "outstanding stolen"
After a lot of messing about, it turned out that it was stolen and recovered inside an hour, but the insurers hadn't updated their records
As it was recovered without damage, within an hour, it isn't recorded as stolen because yhe owner wasn't paid out by the insurer
In a same way that if you have a minor accident and it's fixed, it isn't recorded as accident damaged
When I HPi it at point of sale, it came up as "outstanding stolen"
After a lot of messing about, it turned out that it was stolen and recovered inside an hour, but the insurers hadn't updated their records
As it was recovered without damage, within an hour, it isn't recorded as stolen because yhe owner wasn't paid out by the insurer
In a same way that if you have a minor accident and it's fixed, it isn't recorded as accident damaged
airsafari87 said:
No, I wouldn’t want it back.
In order to get insured on my KTM I had to have a tracker fitted.
I will say that they are very good at what they do and the customer service was spot on.
But if it was ever stolen I’d hope it was crashed and destroyed before it had had any chance of being recovered.
This…I had no choice but to fit a tracker to insure my bike, it has now just about paid for itself in lower premiums .In order to get insured on my KTM I had to have a tracker fitted.
I will say that they are very good at what they do and the customer service was spot on.
But if it was ever stolen I’d hope it was crashed and destroyed before it had had any chance of being recovered.
As to if id want it back, that would depend on the damage/circumstances.
we had a car stolen & eventually got it back on a Fri after it was repaired , it was stolen again on the following Monday , I had no faith it wouldn’t happen again so changed it straight away .
Daughter had similar , 2 times she came out to the drivers window smashed attempting to steal her car , we changed it .
I just think if a vehicle has been stolen once there’s a fair chance it will happen again , so no I’d not want it back .
Daughter had similar , 2 times she came out to the drivers window smashed attempting to steal her car , we changed it .
I just think if a vehicle has been stolen once there’s a fair chance it will happen again , so no I’d not want it back .
As has been said, it depends on the bike. If my Hornet was stolen I would 100% want it back, just because I've had it 22 years and therefore there are lots of memories with it. The payout would be negligible on it so financially having it back makes no difference. I am considering getting a tracker for this bike even though the financial value doesn't warrant it, just to aid fast recovery to minimise damage. If either of my other bikes were stolen I would be indifferent.
It also depends on the circumstances. Those bikes in the container have been stolen to ship abroad to sell by professional thieves, so the thief will have done as minimal damage as possible to get as much money as possible. I saw the photos and none of the bikes looked damaged (or even dirty!). I'd take those bikes back. However, when the hoody wearing teenagers take a bike for fun and generally abuse it, that would be different.
It also depends on the circumstances. Those bikes in the container have been stolen to ship abroad to sell by professional thieves, so the thief will have done as minimal damage as possible to get as much money as possible. I saw the photos and none of the bikes looked damaged (or even dirty!). I'd take those bikes back. However, when the hoody wearing teenagers take a bike for fun and generally abuse it, that would be different.
stang65 said:
As has been said, it depends on the bike. If my Hornet was stolen I would 100% want it back, just because I've had it 22 years and therefore there are lots of memories with it. The payout would be negligible on it so financially having it back makes no difference. I am considering getting a tracker for this bike even though the financial value doesn't warrant it, just to aid fast recovery to minimise damage. If either of my other bikes were stolen I would be indifferent.
It also depends on the circumstances. Those bikes in the container have been stolen to ship abroad to sell by professional thieves, so the thief will have done as minimal damage as possible to get as much money as possible. I saw the photos and none of the bikes looked damaged (or even dirty!). I'd take those bikes back. However, when the hoody wearing teenagers take a bike for fun and generally abuse it, that would be different.
Was having this conversation yesterday, there’s some serious organisation running these “sales” saw a guy said his was recovered before after being seized in a container heading for Ghana?! Begs the question of what are the recipients paying for these bikes?! A few videos circulating of m1000rr’s and the likes being ragged about in third world countries?! It also depends on the circumstances. Those bikes in the container have been stolen to ship abroad to sell by professional thieves, so the thief will have done as minimal damage as possible to get as much money as possible. I saw the photos and none of the bikes looked damaged (or even dirty!). I'd take those bikes back. However, when the hoody wearing teenagers take a bike for fun and generally abuse it, that would be different.
Biker 1 said:
Off topic, but can tracking data be used as evidence, for example, if one had been speeding immediately prior to a crash? Is other data/telemetry recorded?
I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
My tracker had the option to record your speed if you wanted it to.I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
I had it turned off.
I haven’t had any query from the insurance company with regards to my speed when I crashed, but I had removed the tracker ‘black box’ before the bike was taken away.
Biker 1 said:
Off topic, but can tracking data be used as evidence, for example, if one had been speeding immediately prior to a crash? Is other data/telemetry recorded?
I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
Yes it can and is. Not a minor crash, but serious/fatals it is used. I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
Quite amazing what information bikes/cars hold.
Biker 1 said:
Off topic, but can tracking data be used as evidence, for example, if one had been speeding immediately prior to a crash? Is other data/telemetry recorded?
I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
My old man’s MT09sp has a factory fitted Datatool tracker, will send alerts to your phone if you try moving it without the key in range etc, automatically tracks your ride on the app, as well as speed and so on, you can turn the speed function off which he has, as mentioned if you were to find yourself involved in a serious accident it could be quite incriminating. I don't have a tracker, but may need one in the future for insurance purposes. Just trying to work out the pros & cons...
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